Will you take the vaccine?

[Doddlebug2000]

Will you take the vaccine and why?
Just curious to different opinions on this really!

Yes. I trust scientists and not politicians.

All the hard work that has been put into this is commendable.

I won’t get it till summer because I’m pregnant and there’s obviously no tested safety for pregnant women. I would take that risk.

When baby is out though I will be in the queue to get it yes.

DH will be one of the first to get it as an intensive care Dr. I’m nervous but not more so than I am worrying he’ll get it every time he goes to work.

*wouldn't take that risk

I"m not overly keen - I have to admit.

What worries me more though is the fact we'll need to have this every year from now on - won't we?

So that's having something I'm not very keen or confident about - every year. That's a lot.

Not unless I'm told I have to have it to be able to stay on the drugs I take. If I don't have the flu injection, my drugs are stopped, so in a way it's forced, as I need the drugs to be able to live.

If i don't have the same issue with the covid vaccine, then no, I won't have it.

Yes . Frontline NHS so hopefully in the week or two . Will still of course hands face space but it will be good to have additional protection from the unpredictability of Covid/long Covid / as yet unknown risks for survivors .

@Dustballs

I"m not overly keen - I have to admit.

What worries me more though is the fact we'll need to have this every year from now on - won't we?

So that's having something I'm not very keen or confident about - every year. That's a lot.

We honestly don’t know how long immunity will last. It’s possible we will need annual boosters but not guaranteed by any means.

Yes, as I work in a care home.

I absolutely will be taking it as soon as I’m offered it but as a healthy 41 year old I realise that won’t be for a while.

Here is a fab and reassuring article on the normal timescale of vaccine development.

theconversation.com/less-than-a-year-to-develop-a-covid-vaccine-heres-why-you-shouldnt-be-alarmed-150414

No. I react too dangerously to most meds and vaccines that the vaccine Is more risky to me than covid. My doctors agree. I'm CEV and have had covid and it was extremely mild so there's no point playing Russian roulette with a vaccine when meds have nearly killed me in the past or at the least ended me in hospital.

If I wasn't a medical freak though I would have it. The problem is me not the vaccine

It's just that an 80+ person can limit their movement by choice without having effect than feeling really bad about it, whilst a working age + kids can't.

Well they can, but that limited movement and lack of social contact was awful for my two grandparents, both went rapidly downhill when their social contact was removed from them.

I'm also clinically vulnerable. I teach and have limited protection at work, no social distancing, etc. I caught covid and was pretty poorly including being rushed to hospital due to it.

However, I'm still less of a risk to people in my grandparent's age bracket. Had they survived this year I would definitely have wanted them to go before me for the vaccine. I want my parents and MIL (60s and 70s, retired, no additional health/risk factors particularly) to go ahead too even though they could technically put their lives in hold easier than I could. They need to see their family, they need lives out of their homes.

I really do believe that it has to be done of risk factors. Those who are of greater risk to covid should be first to get the vaccine, working its way down to those at the lowest risk levels. I believe this is what they've done.

I just would like to see the next bunch of priorities after that for the under 50s with no medical concerns. Those most at risk of long covid need to be next in line and those who have prolonged contact with others with no real way to follow,social distancing guidelines, etc such as school and college staff. I'd include university staff in that too so that they can get back to teaching face to face and allow students to be working properly together in university classrooms.

@TheBoots

One thing is to be injected with a whole virus (inactivated) so that your body can produce antibodies as it would naturally do

Another thing is to be injected with synthetically produced mRNA that instructs my cells to make the antigen and so that my body can produce antibodies against the antigen that I've made

You cannot say that both approaches are exactly the same thing because they clearly are not.

mRNA is based on a synthetic product, more complex process overall and hence potentially more prone to unknowns/errors.

I’m not trying to scare anyone, this is my opinion, which I’m contributing here, that’s all.

Yes if it is offered to me.

I'm really sorry that you have been so badly affected by the fall in the economy through covid too. It's horrid, it really is.

If you have your GP telling you to work from home and take extra measures, etc I assume you must be in the clinically vulnerable group like myself. I think we are group 6 if so. I'm hoping the other vaccines get approved sooner rather than later.

I’m not sure I’ll be offered one (30s, no risk factors) but will accept it if I am.

I'm giving up on these type of threads.

The scaremongering and hysteria from 'stuff I read on Facebook' is ridiculous.

The misinformation being spread in places like this is dangerous.

Are you qualified to make these types of statements and to tell people about these 'dangers'? No? Then leave it to professionals who are educated in that highly complex area of medicine.

Are you qualified to make these types of statements and to tell people about these 'dangers'? No? Then leave it to professionals who are educated in that highly complex area of medicine.

Didn't you know, the standard on here is, everyones an expert if they can quote abbreviations and words they heard on the news this morning.

I never knew this place had so many experts on viruses and vaccines (armchair ones of course).

Can't wait to have it but like others I will be right at the bottom of the list. Which I should be grateful for I guess.
Annoys me the people who are getting all shitty about the vaccine- don't have it then but then do not dare moan about how no body care and isn't doing anything to help.

Feelings are presented as the ace card at the moment. It's a way of offering a dire warning based on nothing more than a gut instinct, third eye or feeling in your water.

It's not limited to discussions about covid but obviously that's the pressing problem of the day.

[quote trulydelicious]@TheBoots

One thing is to be injected with a whole virus (inactivated) so that your body can produce antibodies as it would naturally do

Another thing is to be injected with synthetically produced mRNA that instructs my cells to make the antigen and so that my body can produce antibodies against the antigen that I've made

You cannot say that both approaches are exactly the same thing because they clearly are not.

mRNA is based on a synthetic product, more complex process overall and hence potentially more prone to unknowns/errors.

I’m not trying to scare anyone, this is my opinion, which I’m contributing here, that’s all.[/quote]
The mRNA in the vaccine encodes a protein from the virus.

If you were infected by the virus, the virus' RNA would instruct YOUR cells to make the antigen (in the case of actual infection, more virus particles) and your body would produce the antibodies against the antigen that YOU had made.

Aside from the origin of the mRNA (which will be indistinguishable in molecular terms from the virus mRNA) how are the processes different?

[quote TheSunIsStillShining]@Kazzyhoward
Okay, that is one point. If you take away emotion, than this makes no/little sense.
For example: 80/90+ people can be safeguarded by vaccinating their carers. They don't have the risk of commute, workplace, child in school. So why not keep them safe with alternative methods?
I'm not saying I'm right or they are wrong, just asking for other opinions on vaccine priority[/quote]
Unfortunately there's no evidence yet that vaccines prevent the transmission, so only vaccinating the care workers won't necessarily protect the people they care for. We are hoping it will, which is why NHS and care workers get priority (that and not having loads of us off sick will mean people get better care), but we don't know it will.

Yes. Otherwise lots of people die from covid. Or lots of people lose their livelihood. I believe this vaccine is safe but everything has risks. I think the risks to our society of not having the vaccine are worse.

There are many people who are hesitant for good reason who don't just happily 'put anything in their body' or snort coke.

There is also a difference between being worried about the contents of the vaccine and the impact it would have on an individual.

Personally I believe the vaccine will be 'safe' as in the average person will be fine. I want reassurance that it will be safe for those with autoimmune issues and pregnant women (given it's a new type).

In terms of autoimmune reactions I don't think the vaccine itself is harmful, but rather that some people's immune system over reacts so much to stuff that I worry it would trigger a flare. If you're at higher risk of serious COVID issues, then that is less of a risk than if you are a healthy 30 year old for example.

It would help to have reassurance of who it has been tested on as some of the trials appear to have excluded autoimmune, heart disease, BMI of 30+ etc etc (but some have then included later).

Yes. As soon as I'm offered it through work I'm having it

[quote TheSunIsStillShining]@MrsFezziwig
you're right and I'm glad I don't have to make the decision. But I would expect gov to make it transparent along which lines they are doing the prioritization.
At the moment it's more along the lines of most potential tory voters + absolutely needed staff[/quote]
They have made it transparent, it’s based on risk of death. That sounds reasonable to me given the irreversible nature of dying. If the economically active were prioritised the government would be accused of putting the economy ahead of human life, again. If you are at a higher than average risk of death your turn will come sooner.