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@Firefliess

Over 20,000 cases today :( London definitely heading for tier 3.

Does it have to be voted for?

Mind you people talked a lot about short sharp, shock of ‘firebreak’ being preferable. The outcome isn’t much better is it? Once released cases go up.

@MarshaBradyo

Mind you people talked a lot about short sharp, shock of ‘firebreak’ being preferable. The outcome isn’t much better is it? Once released cases go up.

It will always increase once released, the trick is to get it v low, release gradually and intervene early once increasing.

No vote needed. The current law lasts until 2/2/21 and gives the Govt power to decide tiers.

Yes it will, no doubt.

However getting it very low takes ages - short and sharp it is not.

Irritating they just get to decide. Lots of people are going to be unhappy (I predict). I hope we avoid tier 3 in London but we’ll see.

@marsha I'm not with you? I wasn't saying anything about voting

They must have to rethink the Christmas free for all with numbers going up like this.

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[quote Firefliess]@marsha I'm not with you? I wasn't saying anything about voting [/quote]
It was just a question

The nhs hospital activity data is out

Annoyingly can't see it as my laptop has gone bang and my phone doesn't open it 🙄

Fire ie on how tier 3 is decided. Eg Still’s post answers

Ahh, right. Yes @still is right, the government can move areas up or down without more votes in parliament. Parliament get a vote on the whole tier system at some point in the new year - they did set a date.

Matt Hancock is about to do a Downing Street press conference according to bbc news channel

Downing Street briefing about to start

London numbers are beginning to be a worry BUT it still has the lowest death rate per head of population.

Anecdotal but overhearing people bragging about how they're getting around the 'substantial meal' in order to cosy up in the pub is depressing.

Downing street briefing just starting.

The pub on the corner is advertising in big letter that they have a "substantial"

Nice for the briefing to be about vaccinations - the first part anyway

London schools closing?

Testing all secondary age children

Omg my relief - exam child - got worried there

Surely marsha, once they realise/find out how many cases there are, the schools will close.

Real regional variations looking at growth in the last seven days to 7th December.

London up 27.5% at 208 per 100,000 although outer boroughs 234 and inner 169. Outer boroughs almost 60% higher than at 1st November.

South east 175 up 22% in last seven days

East mids 166 marginal decrease

West mids 160 down 15%

East 159 up 33%

North east 152 down 14%

York’s & Humber 145 down 20%

North west 133 down 9%

South west 78 down 11%

And I’d course council area variations within regions.

Matt Hancock just said biggest rise in secondary age group children - seemed to reference London. Testing all secondary school age kids in worst affected boroughs and bits of Essex.

Just like they did in the north west, north east, Yorkshire. Hang on oddly they didn’t do that.

What channel's it on?

Yeah I honestly thought he was gearing up to announce closing them! Hopefully this will provide significant data on any specific symptoms in school age children or if they’re significantly more likely to be asymptomatic.