Can you eat at a restaurant in another tier?

[Davespecifico]

I can’t find an answer to this online. If for example, you live in a tier 3 area, could you eat out in a tier 2 area.
I know travel from tier to tier unless travelling through, is strongly discouraged, but from what I’ve read, not banned entirely. So, is eating out in another tier discouraged or banned?

But when it comes to this issue, there are no rules. Which isn't confusing.

The language used is clear as to which is law and which is advisory

Just as you are advised not to smoke but it’s not illegal. Except in this case your decision to ignore the advice potentially has a much bigger consequence for others

Just curious, how do people here seem to 'know' how many beds their hospitals have left ? Where is this info published ?

Interestingly I have noticed that many people who are in tier 2 seem to have no problem with coming to tier 3. We live near a national trust place who is doing a Christmas trail and there are so many of people from outside the area commenting on Facebook about how they are looking forward to coming. Surely the “rule” should work both ways and they shouldn’t be coming infecting themselves with our grubby tier 3 germs and taking them back to their homes towns?

ceeveebee

This.
We live in a ‘National park’ area. Will be tier 3 after 2/12.
So many visitors during lockdown 1 and ever since.

@OverTheRainbow88

It’s not up to you to decide what’s ‘safer’ just follow the rules and stop making it harder for everyone else.

That’s easy to say when not living in a tier 3 area

SO easy to say when not in tier 3.

This thread is so tedious, ultimately people are going to do what they want to do, which is what’s been going on this whole time anyway. A massive amount of people do follow the ‘rules’, a massive amount follow them ‘mostly’ and a few don’t.

No one knows what anyone else is going through, read the ‘same storm different boat’ poem.

We complied during the last lockdown, we followed the rules at each easing off, i saw my 3 year old get massively affected and over the summer managed to fix that, then I was made redundant. The market is flooded with candidates and I’ve had countless applications and interviews. Thankfully I’m a pretty positive person but I’ve had tears and very down times, it’s fucking horrible.

We’ve now been told we’re tier 3, yes we live in an area that has less infections than some tier 2 areas but we are where we are. I’m not ruling out a meal out to a tier 2 area.

I have also been snubbed by lower-tier friends, even to meet outdoors, because i'm in Tier 3. And now, they are also in tier 3.

Agreed though, it's very easy for T1/T2 people to try to tell others not to go to pubs and restaurants when the same restrictions do not affect them.

Break the rules if you want this to get worse and worse and kill someone you love. Tier 3 - you don’t eat out and travel is for essential reasons only. Is it essential to go to a restaurant? No!

Tier 1 and 2, is it essential for you go to restaurants ? No it isn't either !

@ShangelaLaqueefaWadley

Tier 1 and 2, is it essential for you go to restaurants ? No it isn't either !

So the hospitality industry suffers even more when it doesn't have to?

Still, it's not essential.

@ReadySteadyBed So easy to say when you don’t live in tier 3?

You’re right you don’t know what people are going through. I work in a pub in tier 2. I’ve just spent this whole lockdown without pay living off thin air. I’m finally able to get back to work next week. If someone from tier 3, an area with a higher rate of infection, comes in and later tests positive for coronavirus the pub will close again and I will have another 2 weeks without pay. YOU don’t know what people are going through.

@ceeveebee

Interestingly I have noticed that many people who are in tier 2 seem to have no problem with coming to tier 3. We live near a national trust place who is doing a Christmas trail and there are so many of people from outside the area commenting on Facebook about how they are looking forward to coming. Surely the “rule” should work both ways and they shouldn’t be coming infecting themselves with our grubby tier 3 germs and taking them back to their homes towns?

Yes because you’re allowed to do that as it’s outdoors, although it is against advice to travel outside of your tier but unlike the other rules it’s not a ‘restriction’.

Travelling into a lower tier to make use of their open amenities and putting the people who work at those amenities like myself at risk of going two weeks without pay after many of us on zero hours contracts have just spent an entire lockdown without pay is strictly against the restrictions is taking a risk at someone else’s expense.

@ShangelaLaqueefaWadley

Agreed though, it's very easy for T1/T2 people to try to tell others not to go to pubs and restaurants when the same restrictions do not affect them.

This is so childish! ‘It’s not fairrrrr they get to go to things and we donttttt’ oh grow up it’s a pandemic should the whole country just go into lockdown so you don’t feel left out. Grow. Up.

I for one won’t be going out myself even though I live in tier 2. However people from tier 3 coming into my work lying about their address and putting me and my workmates at risk at my expense is something I don’t get a say in. Is it so hard to do the moral thing.

Tier 1 and 2, is it essential for you go to restaurants ? No it isn't either !

Yeah, fuck hospitality, it's totally over rated anyway. Who cares about those people who've been struggling for the most of this year. 🤷‍♂️

[quote 100percentpeachynessa]@ReadySteadyBed So easy to say when you don’t live in tier 3?

You’re right you don’t know what people are going through. I work in a pub in tier 2. I’ve just spent this whole lockdown without pay living off thin air. I’m finally able to get back to work next week. If someone from tier 3, an area with a higher rate of infection, comes in and later tests positive for coronavirus the pub will close again and I will have another 2 weeks without pay. YOU don’t know what people are going through.[/quote]
No one knows what anyone else is going through though, you don’t know what I’m going through. I’ve actually lost my job 🤷🏻‍♀️

Out of curiosity why did you not get paid through furlough?

The Furlough scheme has been generous and if your business is shut and you were being paid correctly you should be receiving money.

I’m in Tier 3 and won’t be going to a different area to eat out. I do have to go to work in Tier 2 some of the time and I take sandwiches.

@ReadySteadyBed

I wasn’t eligible for furlough because I would have had to start working there in August to be eligible because of our working month and with our pay day being on the 1st. You had to have been paid before the 30th of October and our working month runs from the 21st to the 20th to be paid on the 1st. I only started working there at the start of October.

Also the fact it’s a zero hours contract, as are virtually all jobs in hospitality, we have virtually no employment rights when it comes to sickness pay etc.

I myself won’t be going out for a meal as I live in tier 2 but I was hoping to spend Christmas with my grandad as it was supposed to be safe. But now we’ve decided with people breaking the restrictions it’s just not going to be safe and so I’ll be working through the whole of Christmas including my Christmas Eve birthday

Sorry for waffling but yes you’re right everyone has their own reasons for wanting to break the restrictions just as others have their own reasons for wanting people to follow them.

@100percentpeachynessa Why did you not receive furlough pay? I wouldn't get too strung out by the tiers, they make no sense whatsoever, where I am the rate is low, really low, we should be in tier 2.

Well this thread is a great example of how a lot of people are inherently selfish and will always do what’s best for them and fuck everyone else...you/they are the ones who will be ensuring we will be in a worse place in January, higher infection rates, more lockdown, less freedom.

I am as fucking sick of this as everyone else, what makes you so special that you’re “bored” of all this and are therefore bending/breaking the rules to suit you? Do you think everyone else isn’t too? It’s the actions of these people who are causing deaths of vulnerable people

Also the fact it’s a zero hours contract, as are virtually all jobs in hospitality, we have virtually no employment rights when it comes to sickness pay etc.

You would receive SSP whether or not it's a zero hour contract.

@userxx

Also the fact it’s a zero hours contract, as are virtually all jobs in hospitality, we have virtually no employment rights when it comes to sickness pay etc.

You would receive SSP whether or not it's a zero hour contract.

You would think so but it doesn’t always work that way, especially as it’s shift work so if you turn down shifts because you’re ill you just go without pay

Well this thread is a great example of how a lot of people are inherently selfish and will always do what’s best for them and fuck everyone else...you/they are the ones who will be ensuring we will be in a worse place in January, higher infection rates, more lockdown, less freedom.

I agree. Too many people who live in tier 1/2 will be drinking/eating out, visiting towns unnecessarily.
They will carry on as if it has all gone away and they are immune.
It’s selfish. They will spread the virus and we’ll all be back to square one.

The tier system does not work.

I hate to say it but reading this makes me think of children, generally unable to delay gratification. Apply the same logic to your own thinking as you would to remonstrating with children who want everything 'now'!

It doesn't really matter that it doesn't make sense, just abide by the rules until the vaccine is rolled out!