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Can you eat at a restaurant in another tier?

354 replies

Davespecifico · 26/11/2020 17:34

I can’t find an answer to this online. If for example, you live in a tier 3 area, could you eat out in a tier 2 area.
I know travel from tier to tier unless travelling through, is strongly discouraged, but from what I’ve read, not banned entirely. So, is eating out in another tier discouraged or banned?

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PinkSparklyPussyCat · 28/11/2020 11:30

@ShangelaLaqueefaWadley

Still, it's not essential.
It's pretty essential to the people working in the hospitality sector.

For clarification, I'm not talking about people in a tier 3 area going to a tier 1 or 2 for a meal, but people doing what the rules (I hate that word) allow in their own tier.

randomer · 28/11/2020 11:36

Perhaps if the populace had faith in the government they would comply more. They would feel that the sacrifice of no social life was one worth making. There must be a way of simply ( but not in a patronising manner) of informing people and encouraging and showing empathy.

But no, we are left floundering and bitter and jealous and without any points of light to look forward to.

KiposWonderbeasts · 28/11/2020 11:55

If the government hadn’t pissed away any faith in them or confidence they themselves were following the guidelines, people would be a lot more compliant.

userxx · 28/11/2020 11:57

Too many people who live in tier 1/2 will be drinking/eating out, visiting towns unnecessarily.

Yes they will, because it's allowed. Clearly you don't agree with it and think people should be locking themselves away indoors until next spring time, luckily it isn't going to happen.

LondonlovesLola · 28/11/2020 12:05

Clearly you don't agree with it and think people should be locking themselves away indoors until next spring time, luckily it isn't going to happen.

Clearly you think that only some people should be locking themselves away indoors until next spring.

We're either in it together or we"re not.

LondonlovesLola · 28/11/2020 12:09

How ridiculous is this?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-55104042

100percentpeachynessa · 28/11/2020 12:11

@LondonlovesLola

Clearly you don't agree with it and think people should be locking themselves away indoors until next spring time, luckily it isn't going to happen.

Clearly you think that only some people should be locking themselves away indoors until next spring.

We're either in it together or we"re not.

The ‘if I can’t have it then neither can anyone else’ thing, are you 7?
Springersrock · 28/11/2020 12:16

@LondonlovesLola

Clearly you don't agree with it and think people should be locking themselves away indoors until next spring time, luckily it isn't going to happen.

Clearly you think that only some people should be locking themselves away indoors until next spring.

We're either in it together or we"re not.

You can’t have it so no one else can?

Never mind that our local economy pretty much relies on tourism and hospitality and that keeping these businesses locked down will result in complete closure and huge job losses?

100percentpeachynessa · 28/11/2020 12:17

@LondonlovesLola

Clearly you don't agree with it and think people should be locking themselves away indoors until next spring time, luckily it isn't going to happen.

Clearly you think that only some people should be locking themselves away indoors until next spring.

We're either in it together or we"re not.

Also the reason they won’t put the whole country into another lockdown is to try and salvage the economy and cut down on the debt. If they closed amenities everywhere it would cost the country millions.

So no they’re not going to do that just because you don’t want anyone else to have something because you can’t have it

LondonlovesLola · 28/11/2020 12:28

I disagree with tiers. Yes.
As I said upthread, I have no intention of going out to eat, I won't miss that. I can also do whatever I need to in tier 3 re. Shopping, travelling from tier to tier so it doesn't actually affect me personally.
My point has always been, the tier system doesn't work purely because like me, people travel from tier to tier everyday for work and mix there.
I go from tier 3 to 2 others live in tier 2 and work in tier 3.
Shutting restaurants in one area and leaving them open in another will do fk all. People are going to be out shopping in towns and cities from the 2nd in huge numbers.

LondonlovesLola · 28/11/2020 12:29

W100percent
Yes, London's economy is top of the list!

ceeveebee · 28/11/2020 12:44

@100percentpeachynessa have you actually read the guidance? Tier 2 are told to avoid travelling. to tier 3. Tier 3 are told to avoid travelling outside of their tier. So why do you think that you are allowed to travel to a tier 3 area?

www.gov.uk/guidance/local-restriction-tiers-what-you-need-to-know#high-alert

From the tier 2 guidance:
“if you live in a tier 2 area, you must continue to follow tier 2 rules when you travel to a tier 1 area. Avoid travel to or overnight stays in tier 3 areas other than where necessary, such as for work, education, youth services, to receive medical treatment, or because of caring responsibilities.You can travel through a tier 3 area as a part of a longer journey”

From the tier 3 guidance
“ avoid travelling to other parts of the UK, including for overnight stays other than where necessary, such as for work, education, youth services, to receive medical treatment, or because of caring responsibilities. You can travel through other areas as part of a longer journey”

100percentpeachynessa · 28/11/2020 12:51

[quote ceeveebee]@100percentpeachynessa have you actually read the guidance? Tier 2 are told to avoid travelling. to tier 3. Tier 3 are told to avoid travelling outside of their tier. So why do you think that you are allowed to travel to a tier 3 area?

www.gov.uk/guidance/local-restriction-tiers-what-you-need-to-know#high-alert

From the tier 2 guidance:
“if you live in a tier 2 area, you must continue to follow tier 2 rules when you travel to a tier 1 area. Avoid travel to or overnight stays in tier 3 areas other than where necessary, such as for work, education, youth services, to receive medical treatment, or because of caring responsibilities.You can travel through a tier 3 area as a part of a longer journey”

From the tier 3 guidance
“ avoid travelling to other parts of the UK, including for overnight stays other than where necessary, such as for work, education, youth services, to receive medical treatment, or because of caring responsibilities. You can travel through other areas as part of a longer journey”[/quote]
Yes, the guidance is to avoid travelling outside of your tier but if you do you must follow the rules of your home tier. You’ve only confirmed what I said earlier you haven’t actually added anything different?

sleepwouldbenice · 28/11/2020 12:53

@LondonlovesLola

Clearly you don't agree with it and think people should be locking themselves away indoors until next spring time, luckily it isn't going to happen.

Clearly you think that only some people should be locking themselves away indoors until next spring.

We're either in it together or we"re not.

We weren’t all in it together when it was just LCR in tier 3 were we?
ceeveebee · 28/11/2020 12:59

@100percentpeachynessa the point is, if people in tier 3 are not allowed to enter tier 2, then people from tier 2 are not allowed to enter tier 3

There is no rule that says people who live in tier 3 can’t go to restaurants. The rule is that restaurants in tier 3 have to close.

Mumof3andlovingit · 28/11/2020 13:03

So from what I can gather from all this info here is that if you are in a tier 3 area the rules state you cannot go to dine in a tier 2/1 area? Is that correct?
I have no intention to regardless of what the rules are. I am in tier 3 and don’t think it’s fair to travel to another area to jeopardise case numbers there unless it’s an emergency and I have to be there.

100percentpeachynessa · 28/11/2020 13:06

[quote ceeveebee]@100percentpeachynessa the point is, if people in tier 3 are not allowed to enter tier 2, then people from tier 2 are not allowed to enter tier 3

There is no rule that says people who live in tier 3 can’t go to restaurants. The rule is that restaurants in tier 3 have to close.[/quote]
Have you read the restrictions?

You can travel anywhere no matter what tier as long as it is necessary. Although it is advised you don’t.

If you do choose to you have to follow the rules of your home tier when entering a lower tier.

So tier 3 could technically even travel to a tier 1 area as long as they didn’t use amenities that would be closed in their home tier such as restaurants and such.

Ginogineli · 28/11/2020 13:33

If says follow the rules of your tiwr but there’s no rules that way you can’t eat out - only that they have to close

The rule is for the restaurant not the person

The only people rules are meeting indoors and outdoors with other households

100percentpeachynessa · 28/11/2020 13:38

@Ginogineli

If says follow the rules of your tiwr but there’s no rules that way you can’t eat out - only that they have to close

The rule is for the restaurant not the person

The only people rules are meeting indoors and outdoors with other households

No because going to a restaurant is not considered ‘necessary’ believe it or not.
Ginogineli · 28/11/2020 13:39

I don't know why people don’t just use common sense

In tier 3 you are advised not to leave area even tho legally you can for any reason

You can legally go on holiday and they don’t even advise against it 🤷‍♀️ Why anyone insists on being confined to their tier when they can technically go to Tenerife next week is beyond me

Stop punishing yourself

Ginogineli · 28/11/2020 13:39

100
Its advice

I can legally go anywhere whether it’s necessary or not

100percentpeachynessa · 28/11/2020 13:45

@Ginogineli

100 Its advice

I can legally go anywhere whether it’s necessary or not

They only reason it’s not ‘illegal’ is because it would be impossible to police and so they just rely on people to do what’s right to keep people safe.

That just says a lot about you and your morals.

ShangelaLaqueefaWadley · 28/11/2020 13:54

This is ridiculous, shaming people for going to a restaurant, it's like the whole thing back in March 'sobbing and shaking because somebody bought a chocolate bar "

TheEndisCummings · 28/11/2020 13:54

What a bunch of selfish fuckers. Do you not understand why these systems exist? It will just be never ending. Just keep out of London, will you?

ceeveebee · 28/11/2020 13:56

@100percentpeachynessa

To be clear, in the legislation there are two types of restrictions

  1. restrictions around meeting other people
  2. restrictions requiring certain businesses to close The two are not interlinked. There is no rule either in the guidance or in the legislation that says people from a tier 3 area cannot travel to another tier to use the types of businesses that are required to be closed in a tier 3 area. I feel like I am talking to a brick wall...