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Can you eat at a restaurant in another tier?

354 replies

Davespecifico · 26/11/2020 17:34

I can’t find an answer to this online. If for example, you live in a tier 3 area, could you eat out in a tier 2 area.
I know travel from tier to tier unless travelling through, is strongly discouraged, but from what I’ve read, not banned entirely. So, is eating out in another tier discouraged or banned?

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sofiaaaaaa · 26/11/2020 22:57

Well the whole point of the tier system is to stop the spread of the virus?

It isn’t as prevalent in T2 areas, hence why they have more freedom compared to T3. It’s not in the spirit of the pandemic for people in T3 areas to have a “fun gals trip” to T2 areas, essentially spreading it around and turning said T2 area into a T3 area. Stay in your own area. I can assure you people in T2 don’t want to eat out with you in their restaurants.

Legoandloldolls · 26/11/2020 23:03

I haven't read today's rules yet.

Presuming you can go from 2 into three if your bubbles up with someone in that tier?

I'm not going anywhere just yet, I am sure it will become clear over the next few days. I was looking forward to some non rule breaking social distanced safe meet up. Now I'm not sure if can be arsed. Might as well wait until my mum who is 70+ gets vaccinated in a few months. I am losing the plot constantly making and changing plans. Plus the guilt associated with wanting to see our elderly parents seems to be growing daily

100percentpeachynessa · 26/11/2020 23:06

@Ginogineli that is breaking the rules you’re in tier 3 and it is advised not to leave your tier and if you do you have to stick to tier 3 rules even in a tier 2 area, so you are not allowed to go out to eat and you’re putting workers and their families like me in tier 2 area at risk

100percentpeachynessa · 26/11/2020 23:08

You are only allowed if it is the same or lower tier as your own are. So yes if you’re T2 travelling to T1 or T2 area but NO if you’re T3 full stop. It’s putting workers like me in T1 and T2 areas at risk and is incredibly selfish

Frazzled2207 · 26/11/2020 23:11

@ceeveebee

I’m in a tier 3 area but the rates in our borough are a lot lower than the national average, and lower than the bordering tier 2 borough so yes I will be going to tier 2 to eat in a sensible socially distanced way with my own household. If they want compliance with their guidance then they need to make the restrictions fair and locally targeted which is what they said they were going to do, not apply a broadbrush approach and punish one area of a county for high rates in boroughs which are nowhere near us .
Think you must live near me! But yes entirely what I think.
sleepwouldbenice · 26/11/2020 23:18

Its not just about infection rates - its about positivity rates, who is getting infected and the pressure on your local NHS - which I imagine you share with the areas with higher infection rates

100percentpeachynessa · 26/11/2020 23:37

@Frazzled2207 That’s against the restrictions and putting workers like me and our families at unnecessary risk so YOU can go out for a meal (!?)

user1471439240 · 27/11/2020 08:10

Pubs will not be accepting inside bookings from people not living in the same household. This is the law in tier 2 areas.

museumum · 27/11/2020 08:20

People really laid into Nicola sturgeon for putting Scottish tier travel restrictions into law (calling her little hitler etc) but this thread just goes to show what happens if it’s not law.
You really can’t ask people in this country nicely to comply with guidance for public health reasons or the greater good. It seems large numbers will ignore anything not fully legally enforced 😢

AlexaShutUp · 27/11/2020 08:21

This is why we'll end up needing yet another national lockdown! Why the fuck can't people just use their common sense?

LondonlovesLola · 27/11/2020 08:22

I am allowed to share all my tier 3 germs to the hundreds of tier 2 children I teach each week (I live in tier 3 and work in tier 2) but I am not allowed to go out or eat in a restaurant in that area.
Ok.

LondonlovesLola · 27/11/2020 08:23

Pubs will not be accepting inside bookings from people not living in the same household. This is the law in tier 2 areas.

They do and they will.

LondonlovesLola · 27/11/2020 08:27

So yes if you’re T2 travelling to T1 or T2 area but NO if you’re T3 full stop. It’s putting workers like me in T1 and T2 areas at risk and is incredibly selfish

I’m tier 3 and teach hundreds of children every day in tier 2. Is that selfish?
3 mins to the bell ...

Stradivari · 27/11/2020 08:39

Yes yes it is only selfish to travel from tier 3 to 2 if you are using a knife and fork at the venue you visit. If however you travel from 3-2 to teach, sit in an office, talk on the phone then its entirely unselfish.

Wish people would bore off using the word selfish.

RoseAndRose · 27/11/2020 08:40

I’m tier 3 and teach hundreds of children every day in tier 2. Is that selfish?

Nope - only the wilfully stupid will have missed the explicit statement that attending workplaces is permitted between tiers

Frazzled2207 · 27/11/2020 08:41

[quote 100percentpeachynessa]@Frazzled2207 That’s against the restrictions and putting workers like me and our families at unnecessary risk so YOU can go out for a meal (!?)[/quote]
I work in tier 2. With young children. So unfortunately I am already putting tier 2 folk at risk by the same token. It makes no sense say that a quiet coffee by myself or with my dh is more risky than having 30 5 yos running around me with no social distancing whatsoever.

ceeveebee · 27/11/2020 08:46

If I lived in an area with high rates like Oldham or Rochdale then I would not travel to a tier 2 area. As I live in an area with lower rates than many tier 2 areas, which has been lumped into tier 3 with the rest of the county, then I will follow the law and no more than that, and I will use my common sense and good judgement and travel to tier 2 areas.

LondonlovesLola · 27/11/2020 08:47

Stradivari
I eat in the school canteen every day. With a knife and fork... 😂 I wonder if that will have to stop after 2/12... 😅
No, I don’t think so!
Ok... phone is going off.

LondonlovesLola · 27/11/2020 08:49

RoseandRose
Only the wilfully stupid will miss the point that is being made.

LadyPenelope68 · 27/11/2020 08:49

@EatDessertFirst
No. Follow the rules of your tier. Its not difficult to understand. All this 'I can break the rules because I am special and they don't apply to me' is one of the reasons this fucker is spreading!
This exactly!!

Stradivari · 27/11/2020 08:50

It’s utter nonsense @LondonlovesLola isn’t it!! I think the more people just start taking back personal responsibility for their own lives rather than sitting waiting for their allocated allowance of time to boost the economy from HM Gov who have decided on the tier system by seemingly chucking paint on a map of the UK and seeing what it covered, the better

RoseAndRose · 27/11/2020 09:10

Of course, when points are well made

Also: "more people just start taking back personal responsibility for their own lives" - doesn't really work with communicable diseases. It needs a community, not an individual, response

The R0 depends three things, the first two of which are things we can do nothing about:

a) how long a person is infectious, including whether infectious if presymptomatic and asymptomatic
b) the secondary attack rate - what proportion of those who come in contact with an infectious person are expected to catch it
c) how many people an infectious person comes into contact with

I don't think we are Sweden and would reduce contact voluntarily to a level that suppresses transmission levels. I think having a regional approach to level of precaution is a good thing, but any system with borders has potential for cross-border anomalies - look at things like council tax costs it NHS postcode lottery

sleepwouldbenice · 27/11/2020 09:30

@LondonlovesLola

I am allowed to share all my tier 3 germs to the hundreds of tier 2 children I teach each week (I live in tier 3 and work in tier 2) but I am not allowed to go out or eat in a restaurant in that area. Ok.
That's right. Well done. You're still not special When I was in tier 3 near tier 2 I couldn't see my parents even outside, cancelled a half term holiday and didn't go for a bloody meal there. But could go into work with people from areas with higher rates Because again you're not special and neither am I Our rates came down
bingandflop · 27/11/2020 09:44

@ceeveebee I think you must live near me. I'm I a town with rates well below national average bit have been put into tier 3 as there are high rates within my county a 1.5 hour drive away. We are 10 mins from a neighbouring county that is in tier 2 despite having higher infection rates than us! So yes I might go for the odd pub lunch there. Bojo and co should have made the restrictions more localised - in tier 3 despite well below average infection rates - bonkers!

OverTheRainbow88 · 27/11/2020 10:20

Our mayor has said “Wherever you move, you take your tier with you,”