@walksen
"I will not risk the lives of anyone’s grandparents, parents, siblings etc.. to indulge my own needs"
Really?
You get shipping from a supermarket or have it delivered? Everyone in the shot chain or shop has to risk their life or those they live with.
You have electric and gas water etc to your house? Ditto
Or you have kids you send to school? The other pupils staff etc have some level of risk. A kid at my school got covid got it last month , his mum caught it and is now dead. Loads of posters would say they need their kids to have an education social interaction improved mh etc and the risk to others is worth it.
I got covid already because society judges the risk to me worth it. I am unlikely to pass on the virus for a few months but am at very high risk of getting reinfected because of other people's needs.
Yes, really. Sorry if my post was in some way ambiguous.
I get all my shopping delivered, already did pre-covid. Going to the supermarket (or any other retail outlet) risks lives and is not an essential need. If I go to shops or supermarkets I will encounter many people, including staff. My presences places others at risk, I don't need to be there so I don't go there. Some people cannot get food delivered, therefore they have to go to supermarkets. Keeping the minimum amount of people doing this is the best that can be hoped for.
Yes, I have water and electric (??). I respect the lives of those who support critical infrastructure and I do everything in my power to minimize the risk to them by minimizing my contacts to the bare minimum (i.e. my household).
I removed my child from school before lockdown in March and I homeschooled her singlehanded whilst working full time (I'm a single parent). She is back in school now as the law requires me send her. She has worn a mask every day since she returned. Her birthday party was cancelled earlier this year, and she hasn't socialized with her friends all year. She's a child, it's hard but she does it without complaint as it is the right thing to do - she's a kid and she can see that. The teachers in the school she goes to teach from behind Perspex screens and have other protected with PPE. I'm happy to pay for it, as are most other parents. Acting responsibly saves lives. There has been 2 cases of Covid - 6th form pupils who acted recklessly in half term - due to robust measures in the school no one else caught it.
My brother is an 'essential worker' - if he stops working there will be significant consequences for others. He sent as many from his team home as he could and does their work himself - again to protect lives and minimize spread. He goes to work, but he does not then spread his risk around socializing outside work (like he said: I am one of the most likely people to spread it because I am in contact with so many, every day). He is acting responsibly.
I got covid already because society judges the risk to me worth it. I am unlikely to pass on the virus for a few months but am at very high risk of getting reinfected because of other people's needs.
I can't follow your logic? you recognize being in contact with lots of people increases YOUR risk but seem to disregard any risk of YOU passing it on? Anyone exposed to anyone is a risk, the more people you are exposed to the greater the risk to anyone else you encounter hence the need to limit ALL non-essential contact.
Again, this virus does not discriminate. There is a difference between critical infrastructure / essential services and socializing. The former cannot stop and therefore has to be accepted. This thread is about socializing at Christmas. This is NOT essential and places lives at risk.