Month long lockdown to 'pay' for 5 days over Christmas

[NotAKaren]

PHE have confirmed Sage advice that for every one day of relaxation over Christmas would require 5 days of restrictions afterwards. So for 5 days relaxation, which is rumoured to be what the government have in mind, would mean 25 days of restrictions. Is it really worth it?

So when can we expect the big announcement that the Christmas adverts featuring families will all be pulled off air.
For the psychological good of the country surely. It wont be good to keep having salt rubbed in the wound every time you watch Corrie Im A Celeb etc. Not to mention Phil Schofields How To Spend It Well At Christmas.

Having salt rubbed into the wound like this will cause anger and resentment to build until the pressure cooker finally boils over.......................

It wouldn't just be lockdown people pay with. Many will pay with their lives. Our under pressure frontline healthcare workers will also pay with their mental and physical health (a fair few ICU nurses have already been sectioned).

It's also the height of selfishness and the opposite of the Christmas spirit. Why should lots of people never ever see their families again, because some people refused to think of others, and mass gathered whilst we have high rates of a deadly virus? Goodwill to all men??

Because the Gov have neglected the NHS.

Ive never voted Tory. I dont drink or smoke.

@SheepandCow Im not having a mass gathering Im only going to one other household in the same town and seeing 5 people.

mass gatherings are more likely on NYE So i find it very suspicious that its Christmas being focused on.

@SheepandCow Do you think MPs and their advisors will have that Christmas spirit.

Not worth it to me. There are multiple vaccines coming. Can't we just buckle down and keep going for a few more months?

@ForthPlace

because we’re not a Muslim country?

livelove - no but a proportion of British people are Muslim ( and Hindu, Jewish..etc).

Exactly! It's not about being woke. It's about not being a cunt.

accept a quieter Christmas this year?
And the next year, and the next year, and the next year, and the next year after that????????? All those saying "it's just ONE Christmas", how do we know it won't turn into year on year on year, just like it's turned into month on month on month?

"We can turn this virus around in twelve weeks" (three months) turned into four, five, sixseveneight, nine, ten months, and now hinted to be nineteen months or more, and that's WITH the fucking vaccine (which for all we know, might be something Saint Boris is telling us is a vaccine, rather than something that really is).

We are being well and truly brainwashed into accepting whatever shit the government throws at us, supposedly in the name of health. They'll either massage the numbers to keep them artificially high for ever (as they have done already), or when Covid is "done", they'll find some other reason to lock us down.

And as others have said, people won't just pay with lockdown: with their jobs, businesses, livelihoods, and lives. Saint Boris is snatching these things away, and people are begging for him to do it even more.

The emotional blackmail wont work any more.

I'm really angry about this suggestion. Does anyone know if there's a petition going on the subject? If not I might start one.

@AcornAutumn

I’m quite sure the hand of Cummings is still at play here, along with all the social experiments and chaos theory he likes to test on lab rats.

Sadly I think Johnson is as bad and Cummings was a useful scapegoat.

It's absolutely crackers.

I will be seeing my family regardless as long as none of us does get ill. Ive had all of my vaccines in the past and am very eager and willing to have this one.........................dont push it!!!!!!!!!!!

wanderings your username is appropriate, you're all over the place.

Why would Boris pretend there's a vaccine if he has an evil plan to keep us locked down?

Viruses don't care it's Christmas... how about some altruism? That is what Christmas is actually about. I despair at the selfishness.

People need to stop mixing to keep the spread as low as possible until enough people have received an effective vaccine to stop this virus reaching epidemic levels. I just don't understand how people don't get the longer you fight this, the longer we all have to live under constraints and pay the consequences over and over.

MercyBooth, I agree with your comment, 'In this months Good Housekeeping it states that the Samaritans usually get 400,000 calls throughout December, 11,000 on Christmas Day alone. IMO there is a good chance it could be worse this year if the Government put restrictions in place...'.

Many years ago I volunteered with the Samaritans and worked on Christmas Eves and Boxing Days. We were specifically told that this period (and New Year) were often the most difficult time for people who were struggling, so to expect a high volume of calls. This year I've seen many stories in the media where they won't outwardly state 'suicide', but it's obvious it is; to the extent that I think, if the information was out there, we'd see a massive rise over the course of the year in suicide statistics from previous years. I'd be astonished if we don't lose many more people this way between the end of 2020 and the beginning of 2021.

I don't know what the answer is, but for all those who say, 'It's just one Christmas', or 'Get over it, it's not all about you', for some it's not about not being able to go out with a bunch of mates and get drunk, or having your extended family round for a lively Christmas Day. Many people don't have that anyway. People may feel that they're already out of the mainstream of what they consider 'normal' life. What they're now experiencing is the taking away of any support services/support they were grabbing onto (however limited those were) because of lockdowns. For someone standing on the edge of the cliff it's not that difficult to drop off it.

@eastegg

I'm really angry about this suggestion. Does anyone know if there's a petition going on the subject? If not I might start one.

Please do, something has to be done to stop this madness.

I'll happily sign it.

My parents are being extra careful anyway because my stepdad is over 70 and 'vulnerable' (even though in normal circs he'd be considered in pretty good health for his age) so they have already resigned themselves to a quiet Christmas if there's no vaccine by then... so we won't be seeing them.
If we could, we'd like to meet up with one other family on the day, but if it can't happen, it can't happen!

Fuck that, it's a commercial festival, anyone who comes out of isolation for the sake of 5 days of over indulging is a bit of a twat

Absolutely not

No. Would rather have a quiet Christmas and move forward in a better position come new year. I do think those that live alone should be allowed to join a bubble though.

@Pinkyxx Where was the altruism from the people who kept going on the ski trips or who went to Cheltenham? Where was the altruism from those who went on holiday in the summer.

This altruism , rules masks lockdown being just for the plebs to adhere to is downright abusive now.

Fuck that, it's a commercial festival, anyone who comes out of isolation for the sake of 5 days of over indulging is a bit of a twat

Why have you mentioned isolation? We are talking about lockdown are we not? Not isolation That is for those who have tested positive. And obvs they will be isolating.

You are not the first one ive seen conflate the two. Im beginning to wonder what is really going on here.

@eastegg I dare say I am all over the place, it's a symptom of long lockdown. It fucks with your head, and Saint Boris knows it, which is why he's doing it, because it suits him to keep the public despairing, frightened and confused. I'm much more frightened of the government than I am of the virus. Even though Saint Boris keeps playing the card of "I don't want a lockdown", he clearly does, it's a double bluff.

Why would Boris pretend there's a vaccine? To make people hopeful and more eager to accept his prolonged lockdown, and also to make people accept the idea of totally eradicating the virus, rather than learning to live alongside it. Mark my words, "eradicate the virus" is on my bingo card, just waiting to be ticked.