Would you allow your child to be tested by army personnel in school? What about vaccinated?

[Treesofwood]

Would you expect them to need parental consent to do this to young children?

@Twickerhun

I don’t think ‘secured’ means sent to Guantanamo, so I’m ok with this

@ittakes2

I also agree your just throwing the whole vaccine thing in there to be alarmist. There isn’t a vaccine for children yet. Besides, I am sure it can be taught to inject - lots of people are taught to self inject, diabetes, ivf etc etc.

Agreed.

I had to give my husband a daily injection for a month after an op. Had 2 minutes training, if that and it was fine.

I imagine the OP is in response to a primary school letter going around Facebook. I saw it posted by someone earlier. A school in Liverpool is having mass testing and the letter states parental consent isn't required. BUT, it also says if any parent wishes to opt out of the testing for their child they're able to do so by informing the head. No idea if it's real or not and haven't read the thread yet so don't know if this information has been posted.

And just to add I think it's a brilliant idea. Hopefully this is rolled out across the country, it'll help reduce transmittion especially for those that are asymptomatic but still spreading the virus.

My DC’s school has its own testing machine. Staff have been trained to use it. I would be very happy for them to test my DCs. Unfortunately they are only using it to test staff and boarders at the moment and my DCs are day students. The original post shows you why we can’t win. I have come across people arguing that testing in private schools is unfair and elitest. Then when they try to introduce it into some state schools, people complain that they don’t want their kids tested. I give up!

@BunsyGirl is this with this new quick tests? Or do they send the samples to a lab to be tested?

@mushmonster They have a machine that runs the test in the school. Takes about 90 mins.

Wow they have their own PCR and RNA testing machine! That is advance lab equipment!
Is this a secondary, college or uni?

@MushMonster It’s an independent school ages 1-18. It’s an expensive bit of kit. About £35k I believe. However, there are 1500 students so that works out at about £23 per student. A number of independent schools have bought them. Makes sense, especially when they have boarders.

The army administer medical treatment to families and children in developing countries as standard. I'm sure they can manage to deliver this covid plan without terrifying the kids! My dds will think that's all quite exciting!

Testing, I would be totally fine with opt out option. Vaccination, I would be fine too, but I would rather give consent than opt out. Either way, it's good that they all get tested so they can minimise the spread.

Wouldn’t have a problem with this. I had to do a test on one of my children last week. Almost anyone would be better skilled for the job than I am, and they’ll build experience fast if they’re testing a lot of children.

Some branches of Boots have rapid testing machines now - sample goes on stick, stick goes in machine, machine spits out answer.

Not sure about how good their specicivity and sensitivity is like. But if you can afford the machine and the testing strips, then you can do frequent testing without other advanced lab kit (or skills beyond reading the manual)

There's no vaccine developed for anybody under 18. However the roll out will be to have all consenting adults vaccinated.

@Theimpossiblegirl

This needs to be handled very carefully. I had a 7 year old ask me if the army was real last week. She really wasn't sure if they were just something from films. This could very easily be a traumatic experience.

Huh? Perhaps explain then and prevent the "trauma" of a child meeting a helpful person wearing a uniform.... Tell her all countries have armies, sometimes they go to fight in wars and battles (like in films, books, history ..) and at other times they can be used in non-combat roles (filling sandbags in flooding areas, additional security and logistics as a PP mentioned at the Commonwealth Games etc..) Adults have a responsibility to steady and reassure children.

@BunsyGirl enjoy it!
When all is over, they may even use it in their lab lessons.
I have never used the PCR itself, but yes separation, processing of DNA (it was bacterial) and analysis by electrophoresis in uni. It is very interesting indeed.

you need to be a registered HCP to administer any drug

Where do I had myself in? I have myself daily injections for three full IVF cycles and I am pretty sure I'm not a registered HCP.
DH gave DC the covid swob test and isn't an HCP. If parents can administer the test from reading a leaflet then I'm pretty sure squadie with some brief training would be able to manage.

We don't have a vaccination so that isn't happening yet
If you mean the mass testing then no i wouldn't mind
How d o we ever expect to get on top of the virus if we don't do loads of testing
Most on here were screamjng about lack of testing , and obviously of you test positive you will be asked to isolate which is far enough

Fizbosshoes - local fire station here is a huge disappointment. When I was doing the voluntary helped bit, those of us in the know knew a couple of museums were the hot spots!! Especially historical things and dressing up

Then when I started working in schools, used to love it when community police would show up for whatever awareness. Would always try and wraggle it that I was in that day!

Of course there will need to be changed sent but what does it being army have to do with making it an issue? I swear. People are properly losing the fucking plot. And as for the children that don't know what the army is. Wtaf?

*consent. Not changed.

Yes

Why would it be a traumatic experience for a child to know about the existence of the army, especially outside of war?

If they don't understand these things are real, learning about WW1 is going to be a huge head fuck.

Yes and yes

Although a child not knowing about the army speaks volumes about whoever is supposed to be educating them.
VE day? No poppies? Remembrance and all the rest?