Would you allow your child to be tested by army personnel in school? What about vaccinated?

[Treesofwood]

Would you expect them to need parental consent to do this to young children?

Yes and yes. Obviously I'm making the unreasonable assumption that they won't be holding my child at gun point abs then Water boarding them.

Jesus do you believe everything you read on Facebook children siezed wtf no if test positive they will be put in separate room and parents called to collect them. You sound like your describing the barrier on Netflix 😂

@Treesofwood

Twickerhun Have you read the Covid Bill? What do you think secure your child means? Why use the term if it invokes the image it does?

Have you actually read the bill? That part was proposed but not put through fact check yourself please

@ThePlantsitter

Having tested my 9 year old myself, I would let Genghis Khan do it if it meant I didn't have to tbh.

Absolutely this🙌🏻

@Hoppinggreen

My kids would be delighted. I would fear for any squaddies facing some of the Y10/11 girls at DDs school though!

A little light relief from the topic but my days... I would have loved this as a year 11!

Their testing, not vaccinating, and as you said it's not mandatory as parents can opt out. I don't really see why army personnel can't take the swabs, considering they send them out in the post for parents to do themselves, they'd probably do a better job then I would.

If / when a vaccine does become available, I would expect it to be given by someone with medical training. But don't see the problem with army medics been used.

Having seen the army step in for things over the past few years
flooding
Bridge building
Setting up and administering covid testing sites

I feel very proud of the British army and what they can do at short notice.

@BecomeStronger

When I saw the soldiers on the news last night, in short sleeve order (presumably for hygiene) it made me think what exactly is it about a man with rolled up sleeves that's different to a man in a short sleeved shirt.....?

A man in a short sleeved shirt is fully dressed. A man with long sleeves rolled up is showing you something that would normally be concealed. 😉

OP please can you link to the relevant primary or secondary legislation??

This sounds like a variant of the untrue viral Facebook conspiracy theory campaign that was going round over the summer. Ps there is no CV Bill. It is an Act of Parliament.

Hilarious that people think medics need to carry out the swabs. How do you think the drive through and home testing kits work? I did mine and DDs and the highest form of medical training I have is a Brownie First Aid badge about 25 years ago.

The 'barcode' is related to the container the swab test is put in. You are given a copy and its one method of tracing results. They are not tattooing bar codes onto anyone.

The 'securing those with positive tests results' will be whatever process the school has had in place since the reopening in September for any child developing symptoms in school time. If you don't know what this is at your DCs school(a) I suggest you ask them and make yourself familiar with it (if you are that upset by the thought you probably should have done in September). For my kids, it's being taken out of class and sitting with a teacher in one of the smaller offices with a staff member in PPE (mask and plastic pinny) until a parent can pick them up. Sonpretyy much the same as if they've projectile vomited all over the place. They aren't going to cart you kids off ffs, get a grip.

The vaccination - red herring and unnecessarily alarming thing to mention. The vaccine hasn't been through approvals or testing for paediatrics, no one is vaccinating your children without consent. However, in theory, would I trust the army to vaccinate? Yes. My friend has no medical training and when her daughter was diagnosed type 1 diabetes she had to administer injections and learnt how to do so pretty quickly. She didn't have to train to be a HCA in order to be allowed to do so. Neither did the many partners of people I know who have had c sections and administer the blood clot injections post discharge from hospital

Having an opt out system for testing makes sense, they do the same with organ donation.

Unlike general Jo Bloggs doing a test, at least the soldiers will be doing them correctly in the first place. I remember doing a home test and struggling. No matter how much I tried the instructions didn't make sense. Had to facetime a mate to talk me through it. CV fever really fucks with you, and can laugh now about me sobbing on my bed trying to sort out the return box and label. And burst into a mix of laughter and sobbing as I handed over a battered box apologizing.

As for a vaccine without consent, don't care who administers it they can fuck off.

Secured will be following the guidelines in school when staff suspect a pupil has CV. Isolated in a room alone with the door locked until someone arrives to collect, then stay at home.

Oh and yes I was given a barcode as part of the test. It linked to the bar code on my test. If I needed to track the results, this made things easier.

Oh and the vaccine has only been tested on those 18+ and will be rolled out to that age group.

No and no. Id even go as far as keeping them off school for that day

This is on Twitter.

I’m not getting this. At the moment we can self test for covid...read a flyer with instructions and stick a swab on our tonsils and then up our nose - job done. Why exactly can’t someone else be taught to do this? What does it matter if that person is wearing army clothes or regular clothes? They would still be the same person.
To be honest I think it makes sense to use the army more - we are paying them already - why when public money is tight don’t we use them instead of creating new people the government has to find the money to pay?

@Namechangedforthisoct2

Jesus no way!!! This is the reason some parents have decided not to send their children back to school and are home educating, they’ve changed some laws meaning your children can be seized and quarantined if found positive.

No chance in hell I would let anyone test or take my child. No way I would allow
My child the vaccine, just read up on the side effects of the vaccines and why they’ve been trying to develop a Covid vaccine for the past 20 years but it’s never got past animal stage of testing because the side effects were so bad - now it’s being rushed through AND with no come backs to the pharm’s or Gov, so no one can sue or anything goes wrong......

Children aren't being taken from their parents and they're not being vaccinated.

Don’t know why people are focusing on Y10/11 girls being excited at the prospect of squaddies in schools, I’m pretty sure it would brighten mine and my colleagues’ day too. Even more morale-boosting than a box of biscuits in the staffroom.

We were promised Troops to Teachers and that never materialised so we are owed.

@noblegiraffe

Don’t know why people are focusing on Y10/11 girls being excited at the prospect of squaddies in schools, I’m pretty sure it would brighten mine and my colleagues’ day too. Even more morale-boosting than a box of biscuits in the staffroom.

We were promised Troops to Teachers and that never materialised so we are owed.

@noblegiraffe

Don’t know why people are focusing on Y10/11 girls being excited at the prospect of squaddies in schools, I’m pretty sure it would brighten mine and my colleagues’ day too. Even more morale-boosting than a box of biscuits in the staffroom.

We were promised Troops to Teachers and that never materialised so we are owed.

The reaction of the women where I work would be embarrassing, especially the head who goes all twittery in the presence of any male visitor. I started writing this thinking I was being lighthearted, but actually, I'm not

I thought we weren't allowed shared biscuits?

Oh it's not just the females, Ht at an old school I worked in would have rammed us all down to get to the men in uniform!

In theory I have no problem with it but in practice they probably wouldn't know how to test ds who has autism. I would have no problem with familiar school staff who would know what works with ds doing it.

@ThePlantsitter

Having tested my 9 year old myself, I would let Genghis Khan do it if it meant I didn't have to tbh.

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Oh it's not just the females, Ht at an old school I worked in would have rammed us all down to get to the men in uniform!

The only school trip that was oversubscribed for parent helpers (read mums) was the trip to the fire station.i was too late to put my name down, and just got to go the local church, or the library!!🤣

I also agree your just throwing the whole vaccine thing in there to be alarmist. There isn’t a vaccine for children yet. Besides, I am sure it can be taught to inject - lots of people are taught to self inject, diabetes, ivf etc etc.