If you’re in Liverpool, why on earth would you get tested?

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I just don’t understand why healthy people would get tested and encourage more lockdowns?

Anyone in Liverpool? What are people’s thoughts on this mass testing?

@ReefTeeth

And this is probably why the UK won't get C19 under any sort of control.

Dh has been tested twice and I've been tested once because we were asked to do mass testings in Aus, even without symptoms.

So nothing to do with denser population, older population, not being able to close borders?

Using the term 'handouts' to refer to in work benefits for the lowest paid whilst claiming to be concerned for poor people is a bit of a giveaway.

Government can help the worst off they can't assure that even we'll paid people won't lose any income that's a bizarre expectation.

@TheHoneyBadger

Fsm are for people with less than 7k a year. They don't have jobs so irrelevant to this conversation. If people on decent enough incomes to not qualify for any state help can't survive for 14 days then how do they cope when their breadwinner husband gets ill? Are you saying you'd be homeless if your husband got the flu one year?

Decent enough? You know what the cut off for UC is don't you? A decent wage it is not.

What are you on about when their breadwinner husband gets Ill?

One person isolating means all income lost. Gone. SSP only for a lot of people. Not v easy to survive on you know?

No I would not personally be homeless if my other half got the flu (bizzarre comparison!) But many people would struggle that month.

Why do you think food banks exist out of interest?

This was my experience too today. I have to add that the military ( mostly young men in their early 20's) were excellent; polite, professional and efficient. I felt quite moved by the numbers of people of all ages queuing patiently in the cold and dark tonight. Some were single parents with their prams at the end of the evening when it was quiet. I felt proud of our city.

This must make you so proud to live in your city. My ds has gone today for his test. His first year at uni. I really hope this helps the city come out of tier 3 when lockdown ends.

@TheHoneyBadger

Using the term 'handouts' to refer to in work benefits for the lowest paid whilst claiming to be concerned for poor people is a bit of a giveaway.

Government can help the worst off they can't assure that even we'll paid people won't lose any income that's a bizarre expectation.

It's something that would work, no matter how bizzarre you may think it is.

The basic premise of the OP is that if the numbers look good then no lockdown is needed.

Jesse wept.

Because people are so entitled they don't think they should have to dip into their savings for 2 weeks? Wow.

@TheHoneyBadger

Fsm are for people with less than 7k a year. They don't have jobs so irrelevant to this conversation. If people on decent enough incomes to not qualify for any state help can't survive for 14 days then how do they cope when their breadwinner husband gets ill? Are you saying you'd be homeless if your husband got the flu one year?

The difference is we are now in a pandemic have you not noticed? Households MANY have already had to take time off of work maybe for themselves or their children.... or their child being exposed to a positive case at school.

I’m not sure how you are comparing reoccurring isolation to the flu ONCE a year!

🤣🤣🤣🤣 also to make it clear many people are living On reduced incomes I can see why they may not exactly be jumping for joy wanting to take a risk of not getting paid their full salary for 2 weeks.

@TheHoneyBadger

Because people are so entitled they don't think they should have to dip into their savings for 2 weeks? Wow.

Oh right now I know you're taking the piss!

TinaTurnerBunsenBurner
But it was irrelevant whether he tested as he could be fined as he was going to work while his wife
-had symptoms
-awaited a test

• Had a positive

As the whole family were supposed to isolate from the symptoms. Actually im not sure exactly when the fine kicks in but obviously the guidance was he should have been isolating with whole family. Not getting tested affected mainly his contacts. (Obviously he likely went about ibfecting possibly elderly people (manslughter)

Food banks exist for the genuinely poor who are the ones who are getting increased personal and housing elements in UC at the minute and would be entitled to what the poster I was responding to referred to as 'handouts'

@TheHoneyBadger

Food banks exist for the genuinely poor who are the ones who are getting increased personal and housing elements in UC at the minute and would be entitled to what the poster I was responding to referred to as 'handouts'

Hahahahahahahhahaha.

I get paid about 14k by the way so hardly loaded and yes find it difficult to stomach that people on here earning considerably more want the government to match their income before they'd consider getting tested to protect their community.

@TheHoneyBadger

Because people are so entitled they don't think they should have to dip into their savings for 2 weeks? Wow.

Hilarious assuming everyone has savings 🤣🤣🤣🤣

We all want effective testing! Are you mad OP?!

Hahahaha amounts to a response?

Out of here and leaving you to pretend you give a shit about poor people rather than weaponising them to support your own selfish attitudes.

@TheHoneyBadger

I get paid about 14k by the way so hardly loaded and yes find it difficult to stomach that people on here earning considerably more want the government to match their income before they'd consider getting tested to protect their community.

Good for you. You're not the one trying to pay their bills are you? You're also incredibly ignorant as to what some people are going through right now.

@TheHoneyBadger

Hahahaha amounts to a response?

Out of here and leaving you to pretend you give a shit about poor people rather than weaponising them to support your own selfish attitudes.

Weaponising poor people? But poor people don't exist according to you do they?

I think math is right. But it doesnt hide it as positivity will be and is very high. And obviously by not testing no isolatioj and no contact's traced so positivity even higher.

We had low cases her but more than 1 person came back from abroad and went on a pub crawl or back to work.
I can understand about the money lost etc but some of the people spreading it
-sending kids to school while (awaiting tests/with symptoms/while family member ill/family member positive!/child positive)
-people pub crawling when they should be quarantining or SI

• 1 refusing to wear mask on plane then contacted about a positive on the plane refused to SI and went to work in close customer contact
• People positive having carpets fitted.

@TheHoneyBadger

Hahahaha amounts to a response?

Out of here and leaving you to pretend you give a shit about poor people rather than weaponising them to support your own selfish attitudes.

Pot. Kettle. Black springs to mind!

Have you seen the queues? Not much social distancing there. I wonder how many people will return a negative test but go on to develop symptoms after today?!

@Mango1892

I've literally signed up to say you are all massive fuckin idiots, and are the reason this distopian nazi shit is all allowed to go on wake up, and understand its ur kids who will suffer in the long run.....

Feel free to dereg

@Keepdistance

TinaTurnerBunsenBurner But it was irrelevant whether he tested as he could be fined as he was going to work while his wife -had symptoms -awaited a test

• Had a positive

As the whole family were supposed to isolate from the symptoms. Actually im not sure exactly when the fine kicks in but obviously the guidance was he should have been isolating with whole family. Not getting tested affected mainly his contacts. (Obviously he likely went about ibfecting possibly elderly people (manslughter)

I know that’s what the whole family should have done. However, I also understand why he didn’t. I wouldn’t, either, as. I couldn’t afford to. Nobody can fine anyone if nobody knows they are doing anything wrong. Not that this makes it right - it’s just a fact.

I'm in Liverpool. I was/am part of the Imperial College Study and have been tested a week or so ago. If I hadn't had that test ( and I came back -ve); I would be going to get tested along with my fellow liverpudlians.

I would go though to be tested because:

1. Curiosity - I did come into contact with someone with Covid a couple of weeks ago (they tested +ve the week after I had seen them); and the following week I felt terrible - lethargic and incredibly tired; but that was all. I did not get a notification by the NHS App. My test was the week after after that meeting.

1. It's an experiment. If queuing up for a test meant that we can stop swinging in and out of lockdown, I would do it now. I hope this will have real outputs for the way C-19 is managed - we cannot keep going in and out of lockdown. As for the questions of motivations and consequences of getting tested - I have seen/heard as many different motivations for going to get a test as there are people queuing up: workmen, teachers, people who pick kids up from school. Non front line NHS workers, taxi drivers, retail staff. For myself, I am not on furlough, don't have sick pay, not particularly financially secure; but I do wfh; but that would not come into question if I decided to go and get the test.

Yes, @becomestronger - I was in a queue earlier today. For about 30 minutes. It was well managed and socially distanced, everyone wearing masks, some (mostly elderly) people prepared for a wait with camping chairs. No problems at all unless people turned up not expecting a queue on the first day of mass testing, and I didnt hear any complaints about having to queue.