To be annoyed that school requests parents wear a mask.

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School have requested parents a mask on drop offs and pick ups. I’m not anti mask and I will wear one but I’m annoyed.

It’s a rural school. With less than 100 children. Majority of children aged year 4 and up walk to school on their own or at very least walk into the school grounds on their own. I barely see anyone dropping Ds (10) off. Maybe 1 other parent from a distance. Don’t come into close contact with teachers as it’s all done outside anyway.

They also have staggered times. So people going in and out different times and one way system.

With Dd who’s younger I see the parents of the children in her bubble but we all social distance.

Barely come into contact with anyone.

School are saying it’s because parents often talk but what do they do expect us to not talk to each other? What’s the issue with people talking whilst social distancing?! I’d understand if parents were standing in groups but it’s not like that here. Most parents are rushing off to work and too busy to talk. Others drop their kids and walk off quick like me 🤣

But being made to wear masks in a huge outdoor open space with plenty of room to distance? Really necessary? Lots of open space around the school! I just don’t really understand!

I don’t come into close contact with anyone during the school run!

Simples!

YABVU.

It's a few minutes per day to keep everyone safe, is it really that big an ask?

Set a good example to your DC and quit moaning.

I don't understand the comments saying to the op that they should just wear one ffs. They said in their first paragraph that they aren't anti mask and that they will wear one. What they're struggling with is the logic. Masks outdoors where people are social distancing is bonkers but most will comply (me included before anyone leaps). The point is it then becomes the norm to request masks in a variety of other outdoor situations whether there's any logic to it or not.

No she says she's annoyed about it. The "logic" being schools make (and have been asked to make) a rule that applies to all parents not just those who talk to other parents/stand with other parents etc.
Of course if we look at individual circumstances we might decide that certain behaviours are low risk. At the level of the whole community though the benefit is having a rule that affects the behaviour of all, which will include both low and high risk individual behaviour.

It's okay, you only have to wear a mask on public transport... and in shops... and in pubs and restaurants when not sat down... etc etc etc

We've just introduced this at our school. Yes, it's outdoors but we want teachers to remain visible at pick up time as parents can't come in for appointments atm. Parents often bowl up for a chat with the teacher, not always distancing,and given that we're now getting parents testing positive it seems a reasonable precaution to take.

We're not bothered about parents talking to parents, that's up to them, but teachers feel vulnerable enough in classrooms without PPE as it is, so if this small step makes them feel safer and lowers the risk a bit, I'm all for it.

It's law in Scotland. Suck it up

Mask up
Shut up

It is next to pointless in your situation. People just like to feel like they are doing something even though it is pointless.

Don't get me started on those nuisance seatbelts...

This is what the US has learned, to our great sorrow...This virus IS AIRBORNE. We thought at first it was not. That means that safe social distance is more like 12 feet than 6, and farther than that if downwind.
Wear the mask.

In Liverpool we have been compliant with mask wearing at schools since September, roll on November see letter attached sent to several Liverpool schools. Now with hindsight I wish I had put up a little more of a fight before letting my civil liberties slowly be eroded.

YABVU

@Aramco I'm not sure your civil liberties are being eroded. They have informed you of it and also stated that you can opt out. Although I'm not sure why you'd want to as it's for the health and protection of staff, students and wider community.

The association of school and College leaders numbering more than 20000 have asked the government for funding to rent other Buildings so that they have proper Social Distancing.

The Government have carried on Arguing that Schools are Covid safe which they clearly are not the association has also mentioned the fact that here have been 1000 outbreaks in schools since they opened.
The scientists and the government have a lot to answer for a child of 15 can be find £100 for not wearing a mask outside the school gates but told not to wear a mask when they are sitting shoulder to shoulder breathing in each others exhaled air.

They expect the Virus to pass them by it is the height of hypocrisy. They do not know how the Virus may harm their future health with Long covid Athletes who were super fit before getting Covid now find it difficult to climb their stairs.

Wearing a mask is consideration for our fellow human beings Schools are not Covid Safe according to the ONS has said Cases of Covid are rising rapidly in Schools Parents who have Underlying conditions are being Terrorised by the Government and there is a mother who has type one diabetes thyroid problems and asthma has been threatened with a £2500 fine and prison if she does not put her life in danger by sending her Children to school.

What sort of Country are we now living in when there is no provision for Children and their Vulnerable relatives to have remote learning set up for them which is the Norm in the rest of Europe.

It may be rare for children to die from Covid but it is not rare for them to transmit the virus to Adults who do. How would a child feel if they were responsible for harming the ones they love.

Our Authorities and Schools who hide behind the obviously wrong Government so called Guidance are failing in their duty of care the Association of School and college leaders have now realised this.

I want my relatives who are children to be at School but the way there is a lack of precautions which apply outside of the schools but not inside and until they do they are not safe. My Deputy Head colleague is on a Ventilator because he was dedicated to his Students. I have sent you a plan for keeping schools safe which I wrote in March

I support the aims of Mumsnet but I think organizations like yourselves should be standing behind that poor women and many others like her who are alone against the overwhelming Authority of the Government. Keep Safe Ben Boyle.

Why should anyone have to "shut up" and not question things any more?

This is one of the things I hate the most about this virus. OP has said she WILL wear a mask, but doesn't see the logic of being asked to wear one when she's outside, for a short period, and it's a tiny school with hardly any parents picking up.

She is absolutely right and there is no logic in this. That's the problem with a rule being applied across the board for every school whether it's a large urban school with 800 kids, or a tiny rural one with 18.

We ARE allowed to question these decisions and we should be! Accepting without question every single measure brought in doesn't prove you're smarter, more virtuous, more keen to beat covid.

Did you see that video in London where a man grabbed a young girl and walked off with her. She was too scared to yell out and went without kicking up a fuss. He wasn't wearing a mask so they could easily identify him. Now think of a school run, every parent masked up, so it's normal for the children to see, someone comes along takes a child masked up, big hat/hood casue it's winter. Identify them now, realise they're not the parent!?

Do I think it absolutely ridiculous? Yes

Will I still wear a mask? Yes

It is just an act of being seen as doing something, but is unlikely to make any difference in the grand scheme of things.

I do agree with a pp that there is a cohort of "that parent" with this, those that either everything has to be a fight or it is always the school's fault and their child is completely without fault. They make teacher's lives difficult at the best of times.

My DS doesn't wear a mask, I handled it as the school requested and all sorted. He has a small sticker on his ID badge, all sorted without fuss.

Our school have requested this too. It'll be because they have received a government guidance. They have dozens of these to read through every week. It's minor impact for you compared to what they have to do every day

Why is it a big deal, surely the parents should be setting an example for the children instead of complaining. All the parents at my DCs school do it without complaining.

Just wear a mask and stop making a fuss, for goodness sake

YABVU.

I know of a parent who refused to get their child tested as they didn’t want to isolate over half term. That parent is now sick with Covid. Also a member of staff is now sick with Covid.

Selfish parents will be the reasons schools close sooner rather than later. Wear the mask.

@Itisasecret

YABVU.

I know of a parent who refused to get their child tested as they didn’t want to isolate over half term. That parent is now sick with Covid. Also a member of staff is now sick with Covid.

Selfish parents will be the reasons schools close sooner rather than later. Wear the mask.

Those things aren't connected though, me wearing a mask won't do anything to stop parents like that

The infant school started this and a few other measures, a week into September after a parent complained.

The week prior we had staggered start and finish times, parents waited in their usual place outside the classroom, socially distanced and for a couple of minutes max as the children were sent out one by one.

Now we have to wait outside the gate in a large group blocking pavements until a member of staff announces your year group (turning up on time doesn't mean anything because it's down to the staff member and the times vary). Then you get funneled through two staff members blocking the bottleneck of the gate, again squeezed up against everyone in. Then we have to queue, but there's not enough space to socially distance effectively without crossing queues/bubbles with other classes. It takes ages to get to the front, shout your name and then your child reappear so again more contact with other people. Finally, you have to follow the one way system that causes everyone to squeeze together from all year groups down a narrow, newly made walkway that was half the space it was before the one way system was introduced. But it's ok because we wear masks...

@Itisasecret

YABVU.

I know of a parent who refused to get their child tested as they didn’t want to isolate over half term. That parent is now sick with Covid. Also a member of staff is now sick with Covid.

Selfish parents will be the reasons schools close sooner rather than later. Wear the mask.

I think a lot likely didn’t test over half term for the same reason and how many will over Christmas?