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There’s no virus really- conspiracy.

53 replies

Autumnblooms · 04/11/2020 14:59

So I’m a little slow to the mark as I don’t use social media but recently been told on FB there are these huge communities coming together over the idea that the virus isn’t real and this is all a way for the government to control us.

I’m personally not one for conspiracy theories however I do find it interesting in people’s beliefs around them.

The idea seems to be that the government want to track and trace each individual by injecting us with this type of device....if this was true and we did all become ‘controlled’ what do people believe would happen after that? As I genuinely can’t work it out, what advantage the government would have tracing us??? (Other than criminals and fraudulent people being at a disadvantage, I can’t see why it would matter if they did know where we was, as they do anyway from our phones).

Ideas and thoughts welcome as this has caught my interest in what the big plot is!

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Ballstothis148 · 04/11/2020 16:43

Yeah I’d be more impressed that anyone had the project management skills! And to what end?!

somelemons · 04/11/2020 16:45

@Autumnblooms

So I’m a little slow to the mark as I don’t use social media but recently been told on FB there are these huge communities coming together over the idea that the virus isn’t real and this is all a way for the government to control us.

I’m personally not one for conspiracy theories however I do find it interesting in people’s beliefs around them.

The idea seems to be that the government want to track and trace each individual by injecting us with this type of device....if this was true and we did all become ‘controlled’ what do people believe would happen after that? As I genuinely can’t work it out, what advantage the government would have tracing us??? (Other than criminals and fraudulent people being at a disadvantage, I can’t see why it would matter if they did know where we was, as they do anyway from our phones).

Ideas and thoughts welcome as this has caught my interest in what the big plot is!

You can't argue with stupid. As they say.

These theorists on your FB are crackpots. There is no plot. It's all nonsense.

WankPuffins · 04/11/2020 16:57

I find it ludicrous that people think that it’s all to come and that we are all free until we are injected with something.

At the end of the day, we’re just worked bees with an illusion of ‘freedom’.

WankPuffins · 04/11/2020 16:57

*worker bees

Notthegoldenchild · 04/11/2020 17:01

So EVERY government in EVERY country got together to not only discuss this in great detail but also to agree on it. Is that what I am hearing?

Governments agreeing not only with each other but with all of the others worldwide.

Kinda makes a sham of the Northern Ireland/Ireland thing not to mention brexit.

Jesus is there no end to conspiracy theorists?

WankPuffins · 04/11/2020 17:07

@Notthegoldenchild

So EVERY government in EVERY country got together to not only discuss this in great detail but also to agree on it. Is that what I am hearing?

Governments agreeing not only with each other but with all of the others worldwide.

Kinda makes a sham of the Northern Ireland/Ireland thing not to mention brexit.

Jesus is there no end to conspiracy theorists?

Google Bilderburg.

There are photos of all of them attending. And the Royals, the Rockefeller family etc. It’s not hidden.

Not defending batshit conspiracies but the west at least isn’t as simple as everyone has their own elected governments. There are a few very rich families that pull the strings.

Call me bonkers now Grin

RuffleCrow · 04/11/2020 17:10

I'm pretty sure it's real and it's a convenient way for the government to control us.

Cabinfever10 · 04/11/2020 17:12

@Autumnblooms I can introduce you to my stepsil who can explain it all to you along with why the earth is flat and the shadow proclamation (alien treaties) if you really want to know

gamerchick · 04/11/2020 17:14

They needed it to keep us all in so they could change the batteries in the birds, ready for the 5 g coming to switch us all on and off as we've been prepared by chemtrails already. We'll be injected with a tracker when we get the vaccine.

How could you not know that? Grin

Cornettoninja · 04/11/2020 17:21

I subscribe to the sentiment that the government doesn’t need to control us with covid. We willingly throw cash at smart phones and have been pretty subservient since 9/11 tbh. There’s a lot of interesting reading/documentaries about how governments have used terror to their advantage even if they didn’t orchestrate all of it. If anything covid has chucked a spanner in the works meaning the previously docile, spoiled population were happy enough but now we’re a mixture of scared, skint, pissed off and with too much time on our hands. That will be terrifying the power classes.

I’m kind of disappointed there aren’t more UK theories around brexit; who is actually making money off that one because the propaganda around it was clearly catering to the mindset of a select subset of the population with outright lies.

duffeldaisy · 04/11/2020 17:58

I’m intrigued by the chip thing. They’d have to be small enough to travel down through a needle, and not clog it up. Unless they are the tip of the needle and break off, like a tiny nose on a rocket.
I’ve seen my cat get chipped. You’d really notice if a nurse got out a needle that size. And that’s the smallest they could make just to hold an address and registration number.
If they wanted more than that, it’d presumably be bigger?

I know it’s too silly a theory to even bother dissecting, but it does make me wonder why believers don’t question the practicalities.

tattooedmummy1 · 04/11/2020 18:01

@NotDavidTennant

The idea seems to be that the government want to track and trace each individual by injecting us with this type of device

Given this Government's record on coming up with a working track and trace system I am not particularly concerned about this...

So much this 😂
Notthegoldenchild · 04/11/2020 18:29

Anyone here had the implanon? Teeny tiny thing in the arm to stop you getting pregnant. I had it and there would be no assuming it was just a normal injection. Things cannot be implanted into a human body without the host body realising but even if it was what the hell do people think 'they' are going to do with information such as you going to the loo/work/school/supermarket/beach/park etc? Really do the powers that be really care where we are all going and what we are all doing? I think not.

ramblingsonthego · 04/11/2020 18:38

A conspiracy requires a level of organisation our government could never ever achieve.

CrunchyCarrot · 04/11/2020 18:46

@duffeldaisy

I’m intrigued by the chip thing. They’d have to be small enough to travel down through a needle, and not clog it up. Unless they are the tip of the needle and break off, like a tiny nose on a rocket. I’ve seen my cat get chipped. You’d really notice if a nurse got out a needle that size. And that’s the smallest they could make just to hold an address and registration number. If they wanted more than that, it’d presumably be bigger?

I know it’s too silly a theory to even bother dissecting, but it does make me wonder why believers don’t question the practicalities.

Exactly my thoughts! Why don't people want to know the details, I certainly would! It wouldn't be a 'read only' chip, such as you have in animals, it is supposedly going to be able to respond to signals from those 5G masts (that's where the 'mind control' comes in). That means it must be a chip capable of receiving AND sending signals, and that needs power. What would the power source be? We are heading into sci fi territory.
chickenyhead · 04/11/2020 19:01

Have these people not considered that their access to the Internet tripe, having a TV, phone etc could be controlling them . Where do you draw the line. How do you get these people to be reasonable?

tommika · 04/11/2020 19:05

The implant conspiracy is conspiracists adding 2+2 to make 666

There is a patent request which includes the number 6 three times - not 666 but 060606
There is no implant, but the users activity being picked up by their device - like health and step trackers in your phone or a wrist band etc. The patent covers paying the participants in cryptocurrency

fullfact.org/online/bill-gates-patent-microchips/
patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606

Next Bill Gates is a multimillionaire with a foundation supporting many charities in aid of the poor across the world and promoting health including vaccines

www.gatesfoundation.org/

He also has investments in a vaccine company

He is a businessman in technology and therefore sells devices that track people - using apps etc, which gain advertising etc
As do every supermarket so that they can give us vouchers after collecting our spending habits and encouraging to spend more with them

Get the usual conspiracists and anti-vaxxers together and all of this adds up to Bill Gates injecting trackers into the whole world

Baggingarea · 04/11/2020 19:09

Just because you read something on FB or watch on YouTube (or read it on MN) doesn't make it true.

Fizbosshoes · 04/11/2020 19:13

I cant imagine what any conspiracy theorists think there is to gain by tanking the economy all over the world? And are all governments working together in this...? Whose winning? (Apart from amazon, Andres and dettol? )

ILiveInSalemsLot · 04/11/2020 19:16

The governments could have done controlling and chipping stuff under the terrorism threat, if they really wanted to. They didn’t need a hoax virus.

PizzzaExpressWoking · 04/11/2020 19:34

So EVERY government in EVERY country got together to not only discuss this in great detail but also to agree on it. Is that what I am hearing?

Oh yeah. China brings the best snacks. North Korean always shows up empty handed. America insists on playing Twister then throws a tantrum over losing and accuses Russia of cheating, but Canada calms them down.

@Autumnblooms I can introduce you to my stepsil who can explain it all to you along with why the earth is flat and the shadow proclamation (alien treaties) if you really want to know

Isn't the Shadow Proclamation controlled by the Judoon though? I love the Judoon.

So Po Flo Blo Kno Sho Jo Tro Do Plo Plo No.

shinynewapple2020 · 04/11/2020 20:21

So, all the governments in the world
Coming together and agreeing to conspire about a non existent virus ? China, Russia , USA all working together to pretend to their inhabitants that there's a virus which doesn't exist . Presumably NHS and health services in other countries are in on this ? And what about the people who are unwell ? Are they being paid or threatened to stay at home and pretend they are ill? All over the world ?

MiniTheMinx · 04/11/2020 20:29

Kazzyhoward, what are sky faries?

Don't fall down that rabbit hole. Do I think governments would like to track us, yes. Do I think eventually tracking devices could be used to include/exclude, to track, to pay for services and goods etc, to be used instead of passports or other ID, yes I do. Do I think it could be used for security and to deal with political dissent, and terrorism, yes I do. However people are dying, we have thousands of excess deaths this year that can not be attributed to anything else, so we may as well safely assume its Covid, in view of the fact there is no alternative explanation.

Do I think our government could use Covid and public health as a pretext to withdraw civil liberties, yes, they already have. Will our government and other European governments continue to legislate against civil liberties and seek greater control over public life, yes, they fear insurrection.

European governments set up a think tank concerning itself with tracing and analysing all forms of protest and civil unrest. This is in response to the imminent collapse of this mode of production and a shift towards AI, greater use of technology, and automation, rising unemployment. This shift will bring about economic crisis, large corporations, investors, innovators, banks getting very twitchy. See The Great Reset, world economic forum etc,.. no one individual business or individual, or group of individuals is driving these changes, its an inevitable consequence of two things, technology and competition.

So, yeah sometimes fact is stranger than fiction,....but no Bill Gates doesn't want to chip you, clone you or fry your brain on 5G

MRex · 04/11/2020 20:35

Pandemics turn out to be stressful and anxiety inducing, these things make some people reach for any other explanation rather than acknowledge that life can't be controlled. If these people could see those actually behind many of these conspiracy theories, they'd realise that believing this stuff is gullible idiocy. If they didn't endanger others by trading unnecessary risks to spread the virus then it wouldn't matter, but they do.

WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants · 04/11/2020 20:41

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Seriously.

🤣🤣🤣🙄🤣

They can't organised a puss up at a pub separately, let alone together.