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To think schools should be shut during lockdown.

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Ilovegreentomatoes · 31/10/2020 19:53

So shutting down everything but keeping schools open.AIBU to think that a lockdown should involve schools closing as well.Have been about six cases in my dds secondary zero social distancing and is just defeating the object of a lockdown as it has now been proven that schools,colleges etc can easily spread the virus.

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Sonnenscheins · 01/11/2020 12:02

but we could make them safer, take kids out into nature (we are lucky here to be easily able to do that), and we could have an element of blended learning

Not sure whether the woods are ideal to do A level Chemistry experiments, although I'm sure the pupils would love it!

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Itisasecret · 01/11/2020 12:07

I think they will close by December. There will be nothing to hide behind at that point. The continuing denial of the working conditions in school, will no longer be able to be hidden. At that point, with all those deaths coming over Christmas. They will sell it as a ‘safe Christmas’ or some rubbish. Only losing 2 weeks as 2 weeks are holiday.

Such a shame and it really never had to come to it. Mixing 100’s each day in poorly ventilated, indoor, cramped areas with no PPE was asking for trouble. What’s worse, it’s with the age groups who are most likely to be asymptomatic and not realise they are spreading it freely.

It really doesn’t take a genius to see the writing on the wall. Which is a disaster, schools shouldn’t shut but they will.

MigGril · 01/11/2020 12:08

I'm loving the 2m, we are lucky and the science rooms are bigger, which is why they where used in July when we opened for year 10's. But a lot of our classes rooms are to small for this we've even had to covert half the library into a classroom so we have enough classrooms at the moment to keep the year groups in their separate bubbles.

echt · 01/11/2020 12:09

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MrsHamlet · 01/11/2020 12:11

@DownstairsMixUp I'm coming at this from my perspective as a secondary teacher. I have a student now in y11 who has full time 1:1. If we're remote teaching, she is available to him as normal, just remotely. We did this all through lockdown and it was far from perfect but it worked.
I know 6 is very different from 15 - but I would urge you to contact the senco to ask what provision will be in place for your son.

LolalovesLondon · 01/11/2020 12:17

Would love to know why my post has been deleted, as MNHQ haven't contacted me.

Was it about the daffodil ? I missed your post before it was deleted...

echt · 01/11/2020 12:18

I wish I knew.

LindaEllen · 01/11/2020 12:28

I don't think they should be shut, but at the same time I see very little point in locking down when such huge numbers of young people are mixing without social distancing and then coming home to family.

It makes me wonder what the point is of me staying at home allowing my mental health to go to shit (it's still bad from the first time round) when DSS is off to college potentially bringing germs back with him anyway.

I'll admit I don't understand why universities can't go to online learning. By the time you go to uni you're an adult, and should be able to cope with learning from home (or halls, or whatever) just as a working adult has to deal with working and earning from home.

But as for schools and colleges yes keep them open, but they have to be made safer.

Ecosse · 01/11/2020 12:33

@LindaEllen

The university teaching that is happening in person is carefully socially distanced with lots of measures in place. It is certainly not spreading COVID.

Transmission is happening in halls- this was always going to be the case with the number of communal facilities.

Bailey0703 · 01/11/2020 12:34

@Itisasecret

I think they will close by December. There will be nothing to hide behind at that point. The continuing denial of the working conditions in school, will no longer be able to be hidden. At that point, with all those deaths coming over Christmas. They will sell it as a ‘safe Christmas’ or some rubbish. Only losing 2 weeks as 2 weeks are holiday.

Such a shame and it really never had to come to it. Mixing 100’s each day in poorly ventilated, indoor, cramped areas with no PPE was asking for trouble. What’s worse, it’s with the age groups who are most likely to be asymptomatic and not realise they are spreading it freely.

It really doesn’t take a genius to see the writing on the wall. Which is a disaster, schools shouldn’t shut but they will.

You are spot on.
wondersun · 01/11/2020 12:36

YANBU and I think lots agree...

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/550846

I hope they act in time so that can stay open for key worker children, vulnerable children and those that believe it’s in the best interests of their families.

mumsneedwine · 01/11/2020 13:00

@Sonnenscheins visions of bottom set year 11 skipping through the woods while I try and drum ionic bonding into them for the 3rd time.

MrsHamlet · 01/11/2020 13:05

Third time's a charm 😂

Flapjak · 01/11/2020 13:08

When we close schools, lets close the nhs as well and shops and care homes. Why should i risk my life to go to work as a key worker going into peoples homes when others dont feel they should. How many teachers or children have been seriously ill or died of Covid so far? Numbers too small to make the newspapers! If masks dont protect the wearer, why are nhs staff wearing them but patients arent obligated too in their homes. Nobody wants unnecessary deaths, or numbers to be so high that there arent beds available to give humane care, but all this is doing is ensuring that in future thousands of people will die due to lack of funding in health and social care as the economy will be stuffed, and it is the economy that funds the nhs, care homes, education

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 01/11/2020 13:16

Why don’t we all take the approach of following the rules and guidelines for a start. Hands, face, space.

When the first lockdown ended people were really good with hand gel and now I see very few people use the dispensers around stores. People pick up stuff and then stick it back on the shelves / rails. People not wearing masks correctly. Some people are probably wearing the same mask for days without cleaning them!

If you want schools to stay open and if you don’t want the lockdown extended just follow the effing rules!

Coldwinterahead1 · 01/11/2020 13:19

I wfh and it's a hard job, being on the phones to customers etc. If schools were to close I'd have to deal with it. My kids would just have to sit at my desk and work alongside me. It will be bloody horrible but I'd have no choice. I don't think they will suffer

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 01/11/2020 13:19

@LolalovesLondon

staffassociation

Have you tagged me by mistake?
My classroom is a shoe box (as stated above) I also teach in 3 other rooms equally inadequate! Same situation here!
We’re you

@ParlezVousWronglais - I meant you !
StaffAssociationRepresentative · 01/11/2020 13:22

Plenty of teachers on MN have children as well. If schools closed they also would have to deliver online teaching as well as supporting their own children

#followtherules #stopmakungupyourownrules

StickTheKettleOnAlice · 01/11/2020 13:28

'When the first lockdown ended people were really good with hand gel and now I see very few people use the dispensers around stores.'

The stores need to do a better job of making it available tbh and organising it better . The amount of empty sanitizer bottles I see isn't good enough and then people crowding around and this is not good enough. People i see are often struggling to get any gel out aswell! I think with all their profits the large store make they need to invest in automatic hand sanitiser machines and have plenty available and filled up!

Bizawit · 01/11/2020 13:33

No. Schools should not close. YABU. Hth.

Beebeeboo2 · 01/11/2020 13:34

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/550846
For those who feel that schools should close

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 01/11/2020 13:35

@StickTheKettleOnAlice - people could always use their own

Constant excuses #followtherules

Sonnenscheins · 01/11/2020 13:36

No, I don't want acht to close and hope the Government doesn't either.