To think schools should be shut during lockdown.

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So shutting down everything but keeping schools open.AIBU to think that a lockdown should involve schools closing as well.Have been about six cases in my dds secondary zero social distancing and is just defeating the object of a lockdown as it has now been proven that schools,colleges etc can easily spread the virus.

You are protected by staying 2m away from pupils and staff, or 1m away for less than 15 minutes, which you can do quite easily.

Nope. The front row in my room is less than 1m from me. If I want to be 2m away, I have to be next door. With 32 students in my classes, I can do nothing about that.

I'm a 60 year old primary teacher and not keen on being cannon fodder in the Covid crisis! In order for schools to stay open and be safe for staff, there needs to be loads more measures in place, more than a squirt of hand sanitiser. The government need to look around the world and see what is in place. I'd like to see daily temperature testing for children, weekly testing for adults, adults wearing ffp2 masks in the classroom, children who are ill to be sent home and tested- we know Covid symptoms in children are different and more wide ranging than in adults. Many countries now expect children over 6 to wear a mask in school. Having spoken to my teacher friends in Spain, the children quickly got used to them and there is no excessive spread of Covid in schools. So yes I'd like to see that happen here too - I know it's unpopular but it may well be the only way schools can keep open.

@ParlezVousWronglais

We are not being protected and it's disgusting.

You are protected by staying 2m away from pupils and staff, or 1m away for less than 15 minutes, which you can do quite easily.

I’m isolating this week due to one of my students testing positive just before half term. 1m/2m “where possible” in the Dfe guidance. Some classrooms are large enough to stay the recommended distance away - one classroom I teach in doesn’t even have a window.

Are NOT large enough

Actually a more accurate thread title would be "To think schools will be shit during lockdown ".

Gallows humour in case any goady people go up in arms.

@ParlezVousWronglais I teach in 8 different classrooms currently. I am lucky as so can be 2m away from the pupils in 4 of them. The other 4 around a meter. Other staff aren't quite as lucky as me if they mainly teach core subject or key stage 3 or super popular subjects in 6th form.

Metre- autocorrect!

@LolalovesLondon

sonnen

There is no doubt that closures damage the economy and future prospects of an entire generation.

The deaths of hundreds of thousands would be worse far worse.

In fact you would care bigger all about the economy or education if you are dead..

Do people REALLY believe that the deaths of 4K a day (W/c scenario) or 2k a day (b/c scenario) will have no effect on the economy . ? If you kept your pub/restaurant/hair salon open - do you REALLY believe that you will have sufficient custom to make it worthwhile?

I for one started seriously restricting my movements 4 weeks ago.. as I saw the rate of increase . Do those against a lock down believe that a significant percentage gave of the population won't also do the same - regardless of laws /advice/guidance as most people have an in built need for self preservation- and going about your normal business in a pandemic is just - well , really really daft and shows a level of stupidity beyond normal comprehension?

If you kept your pub/restaurant/hair salon open - do you REALLY believe that you will have sufficient custom to make it worthwhile?

It's not just the lost business to the pub, restaurant and hair salon owners, but the massive furlough payments necessary to support the employees!

Yes, that's very very costly for the economy.

I feel really angry that people who are either sahm parents or have jobs that allow ability to work flexibly from home dont care that it will throw hundreds of thousands into poverty / crisis if primary aged children are locked out of school.

I think most people and most Governments think like you, and that's why schools are kept open.

Not just in the Uk but also in France and Germany during their upcoming lockdowns.

I hope the schools stay open for mental health and development of children.

@LolalovesLondon - you welcome to come into my classrooms (I teach in 8) to view the space between myself and my students. Hence windows wide open. In one room I might as well teach in the car park. We can all wear coats!

Bailey

The deaths of hundreds of thousands would be worse far worse.

I definitely care more about human lives and suffering over anything else - which is why I get so annoyed with people who are blasé about caregivers, shop workers, doctors, nurses, teachers, In fact anyone who has to make contact with the general public day in day out not being given adequate protection.

@teachcolate

I hope the schools stay open for mental health and development of children.

Yes so why can’t we all agree to follow the rules outside of school in order to achieve that? Let’s stop making up our own versions.

Do people REALLY believe that the deaths of 4K a day (W/c scenario) or 2k a day (b/c scenario) will have no effect on the economy

Those deaths are of course tragic.

But no, the effect on the economy will be negligible.

Lockdowns are much much more costly in the long term. Our children will be paying back massive debts!

It will take a decade to pay back the COVID debt. Another decade of austerity and underinvestment in schools

staffassociation

Have you tagged me by mistake?
My classroom is a shoe box (as stated above) I also teach in 3 other rooms equally inadequate! Same situation here!
We’re you

YABU! Lost for words at the ignorance

Feeling less optimistic about schools being able to stay open and Getting really frustrated by all of the threads about people stating as long as the schools are open that they wont be following rules outside of school

I said above that I would have to press myself into a corner to be 2m away from anyone!

2m 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I'd take 2cm on the stairs. Most I'm away from front row is the width of a desk. And I'm standing, they are sitting, so I breathe on them all lesson. What could possibly go wrong !

I currently teach in 24 different classrooms. All too small for the 30+ kids they are currently housing.

@lesleyfish

I'm a 60 year old primary teacher and not keen on being cannon fodder in the Covid crisis! In order for schools to stay open and be safe for staff, there needs to be loads more measures in place, more than a squirt of hand sanitiser. The government need to look around the world and see what is in place. I'd like to see daily temperature testing for children, weekly testing for adults, adults wearing ffp2 masks in the classroom, children who are ill to be sent home and tested- we know Covid symptoms in children are different and more wide ranging than in adults. Many countries now expect children over 6 to wear a mask in school. Having spoken to my teacher friends in Spain, the children quickly got used to them and there is no excessive spread of Covid in schools. So yes I'd like to see that happen here too - I know it's unpopular but it may well be the only way schools can keep open.

I absolutely agree.

I don't think schools should be as they are, but we could make them safer, take kids out into nature (we are lucky here to be easily able to do that), and we could have an element of blended learning. I'm sure it could be made safer, working with parents' situations and capacity to teach at home.

@ParlezVousWronglais

We are not being protected and it's disgusting.

You are protected by staying 2m away from pupils and staff, or 1m away for less than 15 minutes, which you can do quite easily.

Is that a joke?

Talk about clueless.