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Anyone fed up with we must save Christmas...

182 replies

Dickorydockwhatthe · 31/10/2020 19:12

I just want normality not just for one day 😩

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Twintub · 31/10/2020 23:18

Totally agree can’t believe xmas mentioned at all. I would rather people kept their jobs. I do think if there is a reason to break the rules like an elderly parent on their own etc then yes use common sense. I have a lot of friends with 4 or more siblings and all I hear is we are having our big Christmas regardless... if everyone travels around all over to see family for Christmas then surely January and February will be just as bad as today :-(

Twintub · 31/10/2020 23:27

I also think a point made earlier about NHS Capacity and other non covid Treatment Was an excellent point.

EasterIssland · 31/10/2020 23:34

I think it’s also all the spending Xmas brings what they want to save not only just the day but let’s spend all our money from this year in presents and food and treats to ourselves ...

But yes just for one day we might be in lockdown in 2021 again

EasterIssland · 31/10/2020 23:38

@Gwenhwyfar

I'm fed up of people like you who seem to want to ruin Christmas.
It’s not Xmas what we want to ruin. Let’s face if we have rhe social events like any other year ... what will the numbers look like in January? Social meetings should be reduced to a minimum and then we can have a safe Xmas and a quiet January. Otherwise for the shake of a few days we’re gonna be indoors again in January and beyond
HotToCold · 31/10/2020 23:38

Yep if Boris lets up for Christmas then he will have blood on his hands

Chaotic45 · 31/10/2020 23:48

Totally agree OP. Utterly bonkers and unrealistic.

I'm embarrassed my the number of people IRL, the media and the government bleating on about it. Get a grip FFS.

Parents of young kids of course will pull out all the stops that they can under the circumstances, and quite right too- but other than that people need to get it into perspective.

NotABridezillaToBe · 01/11/2020 07:21

I'm embarrassed my the number of people IRL, the media and the government bleating on about it. Get a grip FFS.

I get your point, but the alternative message is lockdown to flatten the curve. There was a lot of talk in spring of relaxing things to allow people to take summer holidays, isn’t this just the same thing but with Christmas? A focus point to work towards which aligns with the anticipated timescales for flattening the curve?

I haven’t seen any family since the summer lightening of restrictions (live abroad) so I’m perfectly happy to look forward to being able to reunite at Christmas. If they said it was until January then I would look forward to doing so in January. I think people are taking the Christmas aspect a bit literally.

Flaxmeadow · 01/11/2020 07:30

It just feels like the government think we are so thick and easily pleased with bread and circuses.

But has anyone from the government actually said "we must save Xmas" or was that just the press?

MarshaBradyo · 01/11/2020 07:33

@Flaxmeadow

It just feels like the government think we are so thick and easily pleased with bread and circuses.

But has anyone from the government actually said "we must save Xmas" or was that just the press?

The journalists brought it up and press are fixated. I can’t work out if it’s their level of intelligence or they think it’s ours.
sirfredfredgeorge · 01/11/2020 08:42

But has anyone from the government actually said "we must save Xmas" or was that just the press?

Yes, it was a key part of the prime ministers presentation

Christmas is going to be different this year, very different, but it is my sincere hope and belief that by taking tough action now, we can allow families across the country to be together
...
We have updated the devolved administrations on the action we are taking in England and stand ready to work with them on plans for Christmas and beyond

sirfredfredgeorge · 01/11/2020 08:44

The journalists brought it up and press are fixated. I can’t work out if it’s their level of intelligence or they think it’s ours

The journalists did not bring it up, the statement decided to talk about it long before any journalists had a chance to ask a question.

sirfredfredgeorge · 01/11/2020 08:47

The statement didn't mention coronavirus once, mentioned jobs once, but mentioned christmas twice

annabel85 · 01/11/2020 08:47

@Nellodee

I'm with you OP.

It just feels like the government think we are so thick and easily pleased with bread and circuses. Give the plebs their Christmas, and they'll be happy.

It's one day. I'd sit in darkness for the rest of 2020 just for some normality next year and to be able to go to a few gigs that were cancelled and have been rearranged (but probably cancelled again).
commandatori · 01/11/2020 08:51

I think I see it as being maybe able to spend time indoors with my parents for the first time since March. I know lots of people that I know have been doing this anyway but I haven’t, and I’ve barely seen them since before September anyway. I sat in the garden with them a few times in summer which was lovely, but I used to stay over in the week and have dinner with my whole family etc.
It’s not going to be some magic wand that makes it safe, but with rates as they are and with me teaching there’s no chance of it happening right now. Hopefully if rates drop down then I might be able to actually spend some time with them which isn’t in the freezing cold outside! I miss them SO much and I’m reaching breaking point with it.

annabel85 · 01/11/2020 08:56

@Qasd

It’s just a pr stunt to convince people there is a pint and something to aim for. They are not saving Christmas because the virus will still be here for Christmas. I am interested in how many people will be convinced by the messaging though!
Remember the 'it'll all be over by Christmas' spiel? The man is a clueless fool who hasn't got a clue.
Bambooble · 01/11/2020 08:57

It's not actually for Christmas though is it, it just so happens it falls conveniently time wise and can be used as a dangling carrot (or so they think).

sirfredfredgeorge · 01/11/2020 09:07

I think I see it as being maybe able to spend time indoors with my parents for the first time since March

If you were not willing to do it in may / june, there is absolutely zero chance that any measure will allow you to do it at christmas, that's something you need to come to terms with.

Svelteinmydreams · 01/11/2020 09:15

@Miljea Thanks for your post. I am very much of the ‘forget Christmas’ group, but you have given me food for thought.

DisgruntledGuineaPig · 01/11/2020 09:36

@Miljea is right- Christmas isn't one day, its the focal point of winter in the UK. Other religions have important events that dont have the same effect on the whole society, regardless of how religious the country is.

Even the most "its just one day" people do tend to think about Christmas before 24th December.

And it is the one day when most families get together in a group, outside of weddings, baptisms, "significant" birthday parties, funerals - off of which have been cancelled/forced into small numbers this year.

Our economy is set up on the understanding people will spend a lot of their yearly disposal income in December. Losing that is a massive blow to businesses that have had a shit year.

Nicecupofcoco · 01/11/2020 10:03

Surely the rules won't change for christmas. It will still be the rule of six no more than two households at the very most, surely. As much as I want christmas with my family that would be ridiculous to let people mix, then we will be locking down again afterwards due to a rise in cases. I think even if we were told we could mix Christmas day I wouldn't feel comfortable doing so.

annabel85 · 01/11/2020 10:15

[quote DisgruntledGuineaPig]@Miljea is right- Christmas isn't one day, its the focal point of winter in the UK. Other religions have important events that dont have the same effect on the whole society, regardless of how religious the country is.

Even the most "its just one day" people do tend to think about Christmas before 24th December.

And it is the one day when most families get together in a group, outside of weddings, baptisms, "significant" birthday parties, funerals - off of which have been cancelled/forced into small numbers this year.

Our economy is set up on the understanding people will spend a lot of their yearly disposal income in December. Losing that is a massive blow to businesses that have had a shit year. [/quote]
The worst hit it is the economic one.

But a year without frantic shopping in packed out stores and office Christmas parties is a welcome miss to a lot of people. Christmas is very stressful for loads of people and a quieter Christmas will be welcomed for them.

Ultimately who and how many people spend Christmas Day with is up to them, but it's their own family's safety they need to bear in mind. It's one thing isolating for a week or two before the 25th so you can see your parents on Christmas Day. It's another doing what you want through December and then meeting up with your entire family on Christmas Eve/Day/Boxing Day. People who do that are putting their family at risk and will lead to more lockdown in Jan/Feb, driving a new wave of infections.

The elephant in the room as well is New Year's Eve. Meeting close relatives for Christmas dinner isn't so bad. Huge parties or big gatherings on New Year's Eve is.

sirfredfredgeorge · 01/11/2020 10:43

Ultimately who and how many people spend Christmas Day with is up to them, but it's their own family's safety they need to bear in mind

no it's not, we're not allowed to make that judgement, the law is making those decisions, individuals are being prevented to.

DownstairsMixUp · 01/11/2020 11:20

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annabel85 · 01/11/2020 11:40

@sirfredfredgeorge

Ultimately who and how many people spend Christmas Day with is up to them, but it's their own family's safety they need to bear in mind

no it's not, we're not allowed to make that judgement, the law is making those decisions, individuals are being prevented to.

The police are not going to be banging on people's doors on Christmas Day (and nor should they). There is zero enforcement now ffs, let alone over Christmas.
TheFairyGarden · 01/11/2020 13:15

no it's not, we're not allowed to make that judgement, the law is making those decisions, individuals are being prevented to

Somebody has to make decisions for the hard of thinking