Anyone fed up with we must save Christmas...

[Dickorydockwhatthe]

I just want normality not just for one day 😩

[MoirasRoses]

I love Christmas. It isn’t cancelled whether we see family or not. I can’t wait to watch cheesy movies, eat my weight in food, put up the tree, singing Christmas songs really badly in the car, watch my kids open their presents & play their new games with them. We are planning on delivering presents to local friends/family on the day this year. Have a doorstep chat. Not the same obviously but for one year it’ll do.

I think people need to get over the idea it can be normal. It clearly can’t. But that doesn’t mean it can’t be good. I miss my family horribly. I’m on maternity leave & its been very lonely in many ways. But as long as I’ve got my kids & my OH, I’m OK. They are my happy place 🤷🏼‍♀️ We’ll make do with what we can do safely! Roll on 2021!

[Racoonworld]

It’s my baby’s first Christmas and we haven’t been able to see family for a while now (because of Covid). We are seeing family for Christmas, it’s the only time we all have off work so can only be then really. I’m also not following another lockdown, this has gone on too long now and it seems half the population are able to carry on with their lives (those who can work from home, have family close by, kids in school) and half can’t (family far away, babies not in school or nursery, those whose businesses are shut) and it’s not fair.

[Inkpaperstars]

@LostAcre

I’d already accepted that Christmas won’t be a normal Christmas for us.

This new lockdown won’t change that. We’ll still be in a position where we’re nervous about being inside a house with extended family (and potentially infecting them) because DH has been working and the DC have been in school until just before Christmas.

I agree, the risks are there no matter what is 'allowed'.

It's bizarre given what we are facing to be making decisions based on one or two days.

I do wonder to what extent the govt are motivated by the fact that they fear many people will meet up anyway.

[Dickorydockwhatthe]

So talks we could spend 5 days with 2 different households but then lockdown again for 3 weeks!!

[Sooverthemill]

@tryingtocatchthewind

I find it incredibly difficult to listen to considering how some people in the media, and in real life, reacted to those who wanted to celebrate Eid

Yes, this. Nothing is 'normal' this year. Christmas is just a ah ffs

[Mammylamb]

Honestly, I wish it could
Just be cancelled. I am
Not a massive fan of Christmas anyway, it’s Such a stressful time of year: brings any issues you or your family have into a stark light: with everyone comparing against a mythical perfect family and Christmas. People who can least afford it getting into debt for stuff no one really wants or needs. A huge pile of extra work (usually for mums who are already working full time and up against it anyway). And all that’s without covid

[Gwenhwyfar]

"Then why are you so invested in our feelings about our lockdown here in the UK? Boris 'saving' Christmas or whatever has absolutely no effect on you if you're not in the UK."

My family is. I haven't seen them for a year.

[Gwenhwyfar]

"Then why are you so invested in our feelings about our lockdown here in the UK? Boris 'saving' Christmas or whatever has absolutely no effect on you if you're not in the UK."

My family is. I haven't seen them for a year.

[Dugger57]

Yep I’m with you. I want normality back for more than just one day.

[Dilbertian]

What do you do that you only get two weeks off at Christmas? Do you not get any other annual leave?
No, I don't. I'm not in the UK.
I can take unpaid leave if necessary

Then why are you so invested in our feelings about our lockdown here in the UK? Boris 'saving' Christmas or whatever has absolutely no effect on you if you're not in the UK.

[etopp]

@Christmasfairy2020

Plus the min uni students go home the rates will.spike. best thing to do it send them home and say dont come back everything is online

Bollocks to that.

[EisQuiaPiusEs]

@CraftyGin

I doubt that those who want a Christmas at all costs are particularly Christian. I don’t think this is a religious debate.

Weirdly, for MN, I am a Christian, and the upsetting thing (for me) about Christmas being rubbish isn't that I can't see my parents (though that makes me sad, too) - but is that all the special bits have been taken away. Christmas, for me, isn't just one day. It's the build-up. The Advent service. All the other services in the run-up to 25th December. Spending most of the day in church with a huge community of like-minded people.

That has all been taken away.

[Torvean32]

If the UK had followed Nz we could be living much better lives right now. Our bonus is being an island. Like NZ we should have closed the border both in-going and out-going. That would have stopped cases being brought in.

An outbreak where i stay was caused by a traveller that refused to quarantine.

Nz have beaten it twice now. I could have cried when I saw crowds being able to attend the rugby last week.

Christmas is one of the main celebrations of my faith. I felt sorry about the communities being unable to celebrate Eid too.

Our plans would not break any Covid rules, as long as England is out of lockdown. I dont think I'm being selfish. I've self distanced and worn a mask. I've not had ppl in my house. I've only used shops mimimally. I've had a tough year medically and have had to cope with it alone. I just want some time with my dad.

[NorbertMeubles]

I hate the way Boris is gearing up to be the saviour of Christmas. It's ridiculous and he must genuinely think we are all thick as shit and all we want is good old Mr Johnson to allow us all a Christmas. It's like he looks at us as if we're all Bob Cratchit.

[Gwenhwyfar]

"There is zero enforcement now ffs, let alone over Christmas."

There was enforcement at Easter. Someone I know's brother drove over to hers to leave some Easter eggs at the door. He was stopped by the police and asked where he was going.

[Gwenhwyfar]

@hopeishere

What do you do that you only get two weeks off at Christmas? Do you not get any other annual leave?

No, I don't. I'm not in the UK.
I can take unpaid leave if necessary.

[Gwenhwyfar]

"The British obsession with booze and foreign holidays is off the charts though."

Boozing maybe, but I'd be surprised if Britain was even in the top 5 of European countries where people are used to foreign holidays.

[sirfredfredgeorge]

Plus the min uni students go home the rates will.spike

It is not currently legal for most uni students to "go home", anyone in a tier 2 or above region cannot mix with another household, almost all university students are in a university household.

I'm sure the police will be taking appropriate action...

[Christmasfairy2020]

Plus the min uni students go home the rates will.spike. best thing to do it send them home and say dont come back everything is online

[Christmasfairy2020]

I live with an alcoholic husband whom I very much dislike at moment. We have 2 kids whom he always says the eldest is his favourite in front of 6 yr old. He wont move out. I hate him!! I earn more but he wint go. So ye in stuck in xmas day with him and kids arguing and him slamming doors. We was going out to his mums which is better for kids. But ye what a gr8 xmas I'll have this year!!

[annabel85]

@LizB62A

Nobody seemed to care about saving Eid - why does Christmas trump Eid ?

I'm sort of hoping that a Lockdown Christmas 2020 helps to permanently reset our overspending, consumerised version of Christmas and that people don't waste money they can't afford on mountains of presents....

The first wave had also cleared by the time of Eid, although there were still clusters of cases in some areas. The end of July half the country was pissing off to Spain and Lanzarote and things were more normal as it was the height of summer.

We knew a second wave in winter was going to happen, realistically, and we're going to be right in the middle of it going into Christmas. The lockdown might slow the spread (although schools and unis still open won't help) but we're not going to be in the position where it'll be fine by December and a normal Christmas can ensue.

[annabel85]

Since this whole thing started, I have been totally amazed at the number of people who eat takeaways, have to go to the pub at least 3 times a week and are adamant they deserve an annual holiday.

The takeaways are more irrelevant as many food places have stayed open throughout, even during lockdown with takeaways.

The British obsession with booze and foreign holidays is off the charts though. God forbid having one summer without either, in the middle of a pandemic (or at least just drink at home).

[Benjispruce2]

I guess the answer is that it’s a Christian country and therefore Christmas is more widely celebrated than Eid. Personally, I’m not bothered.

[LizB62A]

Nobody seemed to care about saving Eid - why does Christmas trump Eid ?

I'm sort of hoping that a Lockdown Christmas 2020 helps to permanently reset our overspending, consumerised version of Christmas and that people don't waste money they can't afford on mountains of presents....