To think those happy about the new lockdown are usually privileged

[NickVanDyke]

Seen many people on Mumsnet and on other social media borderline happy as soon as a second lockdown was leaked.

Am I missing the memo? So many our going to lose their jobs, homes, mental health.

Not to mention the cost of borrowing all this money that our dc and grandkids will have to repay.

I’m just confused how anyone can be happy about this. To me it’s a disaster.

@FourTeaFallOut

I don't see anyone pissing rainbows about it tbh.

Sorry, that made me laugh. Pissing Rainbows

The privilege would crawl out and join our threads soon to support once their DH's start losing their financial security. Lockdowns will eventually effect 99% of the population financially and believe me, this 1% don't hang out on MN.

Fingers crossed we'll remain fine financially, but we fully recognize it's a shitstorm for so many people. And we have an increasing number of struggling families in our school. Safeguarding concerns have increased, and more hungry children in clothes that don't fit.

And this fucking government who dine well on subsidies of the taxpayers and pimped out their home offices on the backs of taxpayers and gave themselves payraises during lockdown, has shot down school meals continuing through breaks and has let the furlough expire today.

Bastards.

@Postmysecret

I don’t know which side I belong to. I work in a hospital where COVID has increased by more then 400% in a week, the bed situation is horrific, as it’s is without COVID, people sick with other illnesses as well and we are running out of icu beds I am so frightened if I have a patient who needs an icu bed and there isn’t one, It’s not as easy as create more beds, we’d need more staff to look after these sick patients too.

On the other hand I live alone and not seeing anyone is really affecting my mental health and I’m not a very sociable person! And I worry about business and people not being able to get through this financially.

It’s not about wether we get it eventually or not it’s about if you or a loved one becomes so sick they need hospital treatment and there is no bed for them and they die, this is not just COVID people can get very unwell in other ways and still not survive as there isn’t enough staff to care for us. I really don’t know what the answer is.

This needs to be repeated. There is no "answer" to this catastrophe. If we don't get the R rate back down there will be no hospital beds available for anyone - covid, cancer, car accident. Your loved ones will have to stay ay home and be treated by you, there will be nowhere for them to be taken in for treatment.

Also if R rates aren't drastically reduced more frontline NHS staff will get sick from covid, so there will be massive staff shortages too.

That's what this comes down to - how to look after the sick or injured in a Pandemic. This is firefighting.

These ‘horrifying numbers’ aren’t much different to a standard winter. There are no excess deaths at the moment.

From 2018

We're extremely lucky. DH works in an industry where he can work from home, we have a separate dining room so he can bury himself in there. I work part time in a school - not a teacher (thank God - I've seen what they're up against). So financially we're OK.

DS has a heart condition which, thankfully, is stable. So if his appointment early next year is moved forward a few months, we can cope.

My mum passed away earlier this year and I never thought I'd say I'm glad she's gone but it would have been hell for us and her with all this. She was in a care home towards the end of her life and I don't think she'd have coped with no-one being able to visit. At least she had her family with her when she died - many have not had that basic human right extended to them.

But I'm not complacent, nor am I gloating. DH could lose his job at any time if lock down has a knock on effect. My, non teaching job, isn't essential in a school. If push comes to shove and there isn't enough money in the coffers for education, my job will go.

I'm also very aware that we've had an adult and four children go down with Covid in the last month in our school. That can change things very rapidly.

And I'm not even thinking about what will happen if something, God forbid, goes wrong with DS. He's due an MRI on an unrelated area of the body soon - that'll be put on hold. Luckily it's not urgent, just a case of checking an anomaly.

Lockdown can affect people deep down in the food chain, often in ways that's not even thought about at the moment. I'll give you an example. My BIL runs a cleaning company. His company cleans, amongst other things, cinemas and theatres. He's having to lay staff off. Which is an expected result. But, because his teams aren't cleaning, they're not using cleaning products. That means that the warehouse he buys from isn't getting his regular order each month. Multiply that by cleaning companies across the country and you'll start to see redundancies in those warehouses. Then in the factories that are making the products, the supply chain. It's knock on.

So no one should be complacent. If there's no money in the community because jobs are being lost, then there's no spending, no taxes.

@hamstersarse

These ‘horrifying numbers’ aren’t much different to a standard winter. There are no excess deaths at the moment.

From 2018

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Or someone who is extremely clinically vulnerable and will breathe a sigh of relief that the risk of orphaning their young child is greatly reduced

Those are my thoughts tonight. My primary focus has been to reduce the risk of my clinically extremely vulnerable husband as safe as possible. As the mother of adult children with disabilities, and currently looking after three teenage foster children, my focus is usually elsewhere. But my selfishness has emerged as I just want to keep my husband safe, and that has topped everything else for me. So although I hope I am not usually vile and selfish (as others state I am) I am in this case.

I am seriously fucked off with this attitude that so called privileged people are cheering this on. I’m not. Because I really worry for the restaurants that have done everything right. The gyms, the hairdressers and all those who are now looking at their business being decimated again. The privileged are the ones who couldn’t give a rats arse. Need two weeks in Spain off I go. Need to have a big fuck off party off I go. Those are the privileged and it’s got nothing to do with how much money you earn and can I work from home.

It’s horrific. What’s pissing me off is the fact we won’t be able to go to a restaurant or have our hair done but I can fly abroad??! They need to shut the borders.

Herd immunity doesn’t exist. I’m dealing with people who have just caught cv19 for the second time, admittedly not as severe as the first round but still.

happygolucy How mature with your witty “Karen” comeback. You really can’t see how arrogant you are, can you?

I am self employed low earnings. Received bugger all in support last time as not enough decent history. Didn't claim last one as work has been ok but today just told no work next month due to this. We will be ok though as dh ecv and wfh.
Tbh not happy about national lockdown as I think areas are so variable and our risk is no different as schools still open.
Angry with mismanagement by Govt. Bj clearly thinks rugby is more important than informing the nation. Arrogant fool.

YABU, I doubt that anyone is really happy about the new lockdown, privileged or not. But I think those people who have been following the numbers and watching the ways things are going are accepting of the fact that this lockdown has to happen, because the alternative would be truly catastrophic.

The pandemic cannot be stopped, but allowing the infection rates to rise exponentially is not an option in a civilised country. The government tried a more relaxed approach over the summer, but the rise in case numbers was always going to happen once the weather changed, schools opened up again and people started spending more time indoors. There are no easy choices here, but with a vaccine just weeks away we need to bite the bullet and save lives. It's not nice, but let's not fall at the final hurdle.

I don't think it's got anything to do with privilege. My husband is a high earner because he works like a dog to provide for his family and his work is fucked has been since March. We may loose our house it's just maybe a bit bigger than yours.

DP earns very good money and has been able to wfh but he has worked hard to get where he has. We have had some snide comments saying how good we have had it and I agree in some ways. We are very much in love and have got closer as a family, secure in job and well paid and none of us have got ill. But we like everyone have had to miss events, seeing family etc.

@MiaMarshmallows

DP earns very good money and has been able to wfh but he has worked hard to get where he has. We have had some snide comments saying how good we have had it and I agree in some ways. We are very much in love and have got closer as a family, secure in job and well paid and none of us have got ill. But we like everyone have had to miss events, seeing family etc.

What a load of unashamed stealth bragging. Behave yourself.

I think when people are saying "privileged" they're talking about people whose incomes have been unaffected, not necessarily high earners.

I agree. I also know some workshy people happy to have a second lockdown.

I’m a HCP in the NHS and remember half the staff in our department being downgraded during the last financial crisis. Anyone above band 6 was downgraded by at least 1 band. Though pay protection was quite long then it has been constantly reduced. I will never say my job was secure or my pay will never be reduced, so if the economy goes down the pan this will also affect workers and users of the NHS

I'm financially secure in that my job won't be affected by second lockdown. Neither will any of my close families. But I'm not happy about it, my heart hurts for those whose businesses are going to suffer and for those who will lose jobs with Christmas right around the corner. It's making me really anxious and upset about what's to come.

Tbf I do see that another lockdown is necessary to keep the NHS afloat and understand why it needed to be done. But it's just awful.

What a load of unashamed stealth bragging. Behave yourself.

Not sure what her and her husband being (supposedly) "very much in love" has got to do with the price of eggs.

I wonder if MiaMashmallows has name changed recently.....

@AndromedaPerseus yes you are absolutely right unfortunately. NHS staff did indeed get penalised in the last economic crisis. My dh (NHS) takes home less now than he did in 2008!