'We won't be back to 2019 for five years'

[RainbowParadise]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54661843

Has anyone else seen this? I feel completely on the edge after reading this, people surely will not comply with this shit show indefinitely?

It's up to people to be responsible now and stay home as much as they can, or the worst things will get.

@annabel85

It's up to people to be responsible now and stay home as much as they can, or the worst things will get.

And next year? Two, three years down the line?

I dont know if I can bear to read the article! I thought the first speculations were that ,in common with other historic pandemics experts would expect it to last 18 months to 2 years , which is bad enough ! 5 years seems unbearable.
In terms of lives lost to covid, lives affected by covid, lives lost to other things (because of covid) recession, redundancies, businesses failing ...as well as the social impact of not being able to meet with friends and family ....

@RainbowParadise Next summer things will need to open up again (with some measures in place). This winter was always a writer off to virus season and when the borders were kept open through summer with people encouraged to go on holiday and eat out.

@annabel85

It's up to people to be responsible now and stay home as much as they can, or the worst things will get.

But accordingly to you it's no big deal, since we're only being asked to stay at home and watch TV.

What are you planning to watch tonight? And next week? And next year?

Hope your Netflix connection is good, as you will certainly want the technicians to 'stay home' and not leave it to repair anything so 'non-essential' and frivilous.

*write

@Hyperfish101

It’s not 5 years of lockdown though is it? People need to calm down. The article talks about various measures being in place for 5 years. Some more extreme than others. It doesn’t mean we will be locked in the house for 5 years.

Exactly, the full quote says:

" We might be back to some semblance of normality by summer time next year," says Prof Julian Hiscox, from the University of Liverpool. "But we won't be 'back to 2019' for five years," he predicts.

@IcedPurple People aren't following the rules and mixing when they shouldn't in the higher tiers. It's a social virus.

[quote annabel85]@IcedPurple People aren't following the rules and mixing when they shouldn't in the higher tiers. It's a social virus.[/quote]
And to think all anyone has to do is 'stay home' and watch TV...

What's on tonight?

[quote annabel85]@IcedPurple People aren't following the rules and mixing when they shouldn't in the higher tiers. It's a social virus.[/quote]
@annabel85 you're like a parrot spouting the same thing on all these threads.

You do you hun!

I wonder if the journalist only spoke to these three Professors, or whether he asked quite a few others for their predictions and then just selected the two most pessimistic ones and one which is mildly more optimistic. These views certainly don't seem representative of all experts out there whose opinions have been published, and the article definitely appears to have a deliberate very negative slant. I'm just not really sure what the motive would be.

It's especially horrible the way the article begins by taunting the reader with a photo of a happy social gathering.

Then saying you won't have this again for at least five years, maybe even decades. FFS.

@RainbowParadise

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54661843

Has anyone else seen this? I feel completely on the edge after reading this, people surely will not comply with this shit show indefinitely?

So why post?

Do you really really need to worry/upset other people?

So many people are already stressed/upset/scared it just a twatty thing to do.

Personally I'm not thinking that far ahead. I have spring/summer in my sights and just going day to day for now & making home as nice as possible for the winter.

I wish I hadn’t read that.
I feel in utter panic for the future, if this is it for the next 5 years, what is the point. Why if it says levels would be down to similar to the flu, would we need to wear masks and social distance for decades?!! This doesn’t make sense at all, I’m feeling very frightened for my toddlers future.

Um to discuss it maybe? Given it's what people tend to do on here?

I'm sorry did I post something that was hidden away in a dark corner of the internet? Or was it from the front page of the BBC new website? In the coronavirus section of mumsnet? In order for people who don't want to read it to avoid if they want to. But now it's a twatty thing to do. Thanks!

[quote RainbowParadise]**@Racoonworld* and @divafever99* I really hope people don't comply. This isn't right, it just really isn't right at all.
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Ah that's your agenda.

No agenda. But 5 years, really?

Do things like this mean nothing?

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/29/public-hysteria-more-harmful-than-the-virus-say-tory-policy-critics

"But that is not to say life will be the same as it is now. We should have reached a new relationship with the virus where it is significantly less disruptive to our lives. This follows the pattern of previous pandemics."

From the article.

"Optimism for spring

Spring is likely to bring three improvements:
• Better weather, allowing people to spend more time outdoors where it is harder for the virus to spread
• Increased immunity levels, after more people have been infected over winter
• Vaccination - we should have started rolling this out"

Also from article.

@WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants

So why post?

Do you really really need to worry/upset other people?

So many people are already stressed/upset/scared it just a twatty thing to do

You might want to have a word with the BBC journalist who wrote it then. However I do not agree with the OP's wish that people will stop complying with restrictions.

Personally I'm not thinking that far ahead. I have spring/summer in my sights and just going day to day for now & making home as nice as possible for the winter.

Same.

@annabel85

The wartime generation went through a lot worse. We're just being asked to stay in and watch telly for a while. If only they had that luxury in the 40s.

This is so insulting to people who have lost their jobs, are single parents without family nearby, who’s treatment has been delayed or cancelled, with mental health issues... the list goes on. For you it might be a chance to sit at home and watch telly but don’t assume it’s like that for everyone. How short sighted.

[quote BlueBlancmange]@WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants

So why post?

Do you really really need to worry/upset other people?

So many people are already stressed/upset/scared it just a twatty thing to do

You might want to have a word with the BBC journalist who wrote it then. However I do not agree with the OP's wish that people will stop complying with restrictions.[/quote]
I don't mean that people should ignore restrictions now. It was meant to be about buying time wasn't it? Allowing time for a vaccine to be created, treatments to improve. We are hearing good things about the Oxford vaccine so let's really hope for this.

I stand by the fact that we can't live some kind of half baked existence for 5 years and destroy everything that is good about actually being alive in the process. At some point, lockdowns won't be an option because how on earth is it sustainable on all kinds of levels? It becomes an awful task of choosing what will be the lesser of two evils. Let's just hope for something good in the vaccine.