School case - refusing to isolated child!

[Pixilulu]

A friend received an email from school saying her child had to self isolate for 14 days as a close contact from school has tested positive.

She is refusing to self isolate the child - saying you only need to when you have symptoms.

She has been in contact with the rest of the class parents and they are also not isolating their children!!! Some already gone on holiday, already been to swimming lessons etc.

This is crazy!!!

@IceCreamAndCandyfloss

I'm complaining about teachers whining that parents only care about childcare insinuating that they just want rid of their kids. Instead of you know having to work to feed their kids. It's disgusting and I wouldn't want anyone with that attitude teaching my child

Teachers are paid to educate, be it in the classroom or remotely. They are not there to risk their lives as parents want childcare for whatever reason, the person responsible for the child and their care are the parents not their teachers.

They're not there to make nasty unfounded comments about what they think parents priorities are either are they?

as parents want childcare for whatever reason

Except whoever it was said that it was about childcare and not education. You don't know that. It's a huge assumption and it's offensive. And even if it is about childcare it is so much more likely to be a massive worry about money than it is that they just can't be arsed.

It continues to amaze me how some teachers cannot understand this, especially when they will know which children come from households who are struggling.

We have been told that children don’t have symptoms or spread the virus. That is why it’s safe for us to send our kids to school and safe for teachers to be there. - where on earth did you get this idea!?

No-one has said this. The return of children to school was a calculated risk and not done because they do not get it or spread it.

No wonder we are not getting on top of the virus!

Trustthegenegenie

But the fact remains that most teachers and teaching staff have not made this assertion.
I teach and am trying to recover from Covid, most likely caught from a symptom free child at school, and I haven't said this.
None of the teachers, tAs or other school staff at work have said this.

You probably get the off small minority who might feel it. Like in all walks of life you'll get of odd handful who will feel really strongly and may say things like this, often out of frustration.

But the reality is the vast majority of school staff are getting on without the best the can, and hoping for the best if they do catch it, which feels pretty inevitable for most.

It's not really a massive ask to hope that most parents will help restrict the risk of spreading by following the self isolation rules to the vest of their abilities.

If you want schools and bubbles to stay open then it's then everyone has to play their part, wherever possible.

@Aragog

Trustthegenegenie

But the fact remains that most teachers and teaching staff have not made this assertion.
I teach and am trying to recover from Covid, most likely caught from a symptom free child at school, and I haven't said this.
None of the teachers, tAs or other school staff at work have said this.

You probably get the off small minority who might feel it. Like in all walks of life you'll get of odd handful who will feel really strongly and may say things like this, often out of frustration.

But the reality is the vast majority of school staff are getting on without the best the can, and hoping for the best if they do catch it, which feels pretty inevitable for most.

It's not really a massive ask to hope that most parents will help restrict the risk of spreading by following the self isolation rules to the vest of their abilities.

If you want schools and bubbles to stay open then it's then everyone has to play their part, wherever possible.

I appreciate that. That's the point I'm making. The small minority are giving teachers a bad name. I have not once said it's unreasonable to want parents to isolate their kids when they're supposed to. What is unreasonable is making nasty assumptions about why some parents might not do this or might not want to do this.

Apologies for the amount of typos (on phone) and missed words! Can I blame the tiredness and weariness of trying to overcome Covid for not being able to check what I'm actually typing?!

For those whose bubble has burst - how big are your bubbles? At our primary it's all the other children in their year (3classes) that have to self-isolate for 2 weeks for a positive case.

What is unreasonable is making nasty assumptions about why some parents might not do this or might not want to do this.

In the same way it unreasonable making nasty assumptions about why some teachers might not do certain things or might feel certain ways too.

All the way through this there have been numerous posters claiming teachers want schools closed, are sat around twiddling their thumbs doing nothing, are sat doing no work expecting full pay, etc.

Nasty assumptions work both ways and, believe me, since March we have seen far more made against teachers than against parents here on MN. I had to hide so many threads before the summer based in the nastiness directed at teachers and schools.

why some parents might not do this or might not want to do this

Shouldn’t be a choice. Isolating protects others and stops the spread. Totally selfish to not comply.

@Aragog

What is unreasonable is making nasty assumptions about why some parents might not do this or might not want to do this.

In the same way it unreasonable making nasty assumptions about why some teachers might not do certain things or might feel certain ways too.

All the way through this there have been numerous posters claiming teachers want schools closed, are sat around twiddling their thumbs doing nothing, are sat doing no work expecting full pay, etc.

Nasty assumptions work both ways and, believe me, since March we have seen far more made against teachers than against parents here on MN. I had to hide so many threads before the summer based in the nastiness directed at teachers and schools.

Two wrongs don't make a right though do they?

@IceCreamAndCandyfloss

why some parents might not do this or might not want to do this

Shouldn’t be a choice. Isolating protects others and stops the spread. Totally selfish to not comply.

There needs to be actual real financial support for people to be able to do it then doesn't there?

For those whose bubble has burst - how big are your bubbles?

It's varied at my school and has been entirely based on what PHE have directed us to do.

Of the 9 cases we've had in the past three weeks, including the positive case

A - 3 staff, 3 children
B - 1 staff, 0 children
C - 1 staff, 0 children
D - 8 staff, 88 children
E - 2 staff, 33 children
F - 2 staff, 29 children
G&H - no extras added as was already closed bubble
I - 3 staff, 30 children

Reception meant the closure o a full bubble due to the school layout and shared areas, which isn't possible to reduce
KS1 has been class closures plus the odd extra child who would be deemed close contact

The KS1 thing is generous as reality is that the children use the same playground and aren't stopped from playing with those outside their class.

Shouldn’t be a choice. Isolating protects others and stops the spread. Totally selfish to not comply.

Exactly this.
By not isolating they risk spreading the virus further.
They risk further spread within their community and within their school. They will then complain if schools have to close further or more restrictions are put in place in the region.

@pontypridd

We didn’t get a letter from PHE. Not even a text. Just a notification on school app telling us not to leave the house for 14 days.

I find that insulting and rude. No way should that be taken as law.

If PHE have told the school to inform parents, PHE don't contact you. That's not the school's fault. Insulting and rude, maybe... but unfortunately the school can't tell PHE to do anything.

230 students in our closed bubble.

We didn’t get a letter from PHE. Not even a text. Just a notification on school app telling us not to leave the house for 14 days

I don't think PHE do the contact tracing for schools. They advise the school what to do and who to isolate and ask school to contact parents.

We send out a text and the generic PHE letter, by email.

I'm not sure why it's rude of schools to contact you by text or email regarding this. Why do you need PHE or T&T to also contact you, before you should isolate?

@Aragog

I'm not sure why it's rude of schools to contact you by text or email regarding this. Why do you need PHE or T&T to also contact you, before you should isolate?

This

Our closed bubble is just one class - but it's a mixed year group class so some from 2 years are off.

28Dustballs

We have been told that children don’t have symptoms or spread the virus. That is why it’s safe for us to send our kids to school and safe for teachers to be there.

My children have had Covid. 1 asymptotic, 2 mildly ill. One very ill (not hospitalised)

@Kitcat122
I hope your children have fully recovered x