Why would anyone behave like this? Liverpool partying scenes

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www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/14/covid-liverpool-mayor-says-partying-crowds-shame-city

It's really gross to co-opt the sacrifices and deaths of millions of people into your shit internet argument. Those people had their own feelings and lives and opinions, and you have no idea whether they would have agreed with you or not. They're not a prop.

i guess the press showed this particular video so we can all sit and home and tut and say No Wonder Liverpool needs to shut down,

when in fact there are plenty of other reasons they virus is high, including being at work/school

I think it's gone on in lots of major cities with big student populations. Lots of young free careless kids having 'fun' not thinking of consequences. Sure we were all a bit like that at one time. No phones to record it all though back then!

Liverpool generally gets a rough ride in some media (I'm surprised the sun hadn't weighed in!?) But that's a long established political arguement nothing to do with non scousers (apparently mostly students from out of town) dancing drunk in the street.
Move on- lots of more outrageous things going on in this country.

@starrynight19

*Perhaps, in your opinion you think that it is a big sacrifice, not being able to do what you want for 7 poxy months!

I wish people like you could sign exemption forms, saying that should you contract Covid, you do not want the NHS to treat you and just to leave you to your fate! However it will be the same old story, you will carry on sticking two fingers up to the rules and doing what you want, knowing that when you get ill others will have to treat you, even if by doing so they lose their lives. If there isn’t a bed for you in the hospital it will be the Government’s fault, not yours!

Do you seriously think that not being able to see your bf is in any way comparable to that of nhs staff giving the ultimatum sacrifice of losing their lives, because they are treating and trying to save people like you, who don’t give a shit about them, until they need them???*

Really unfair she said she wasn’t going to parties or mixing with other households. How is that sticking two fingers up to the rules and doing what she wants ???

To be fair the vast majority of people who do contract covid don't actually require any NHS treatment at all, let's not pretend every covid case requires a hospital bed because it doesnt.

@Bbq1

If you think that the population of the UK was fully compliant in the war years you probably should do some social history research

the black market to get rationed food and goods, looting after bombing raids, flouting the black out just to start you off

You who think that young people don’t get corona virus and become ill with it- they do, they may not die from it, but they will have life changing ongoing issues from it.
By young I am talking up to 35. Or is that too old, if so, then at what age are we seen as being dispensable to the younger generation.

3littlewords I agree the bold didn’t work on my post. The last paragraph was actually mine in response to another poster.

they do, they may not die from it, but they will have life changing ongoing issues from it.

What, all of them? Hardly.

I'm not in Liverpool. Locally (it's rural) there are not many cases. But I will live cautiously while CV19 rages, because it's sensible to do so, and we are 64, plus DH has had heart issues. I will go back to shopping once a week, in one shop, and phone my order to the butcher for a pick up. But I shall also get together with our best friends who are equally cautious for a beer on Saturday.

[quote Ted27]@Bbq1

If you think that the population of the UK was fully compliant in the war years you probably should do some social history research

the black market to get rationed food and goods, looting after bombing raids, flouting the black out just to start you off[/quote]
Shush no inconvenience facts please.

Not read the whole thread but I’m assuming the pictures from Soho from this weekend, the pictures of cricket in Peckham and the pictures of the full theatres in London haven’t been shared on this thread. The endless slagging off of Liverpool on this site is becoming boring.

Because they are selfish people. The country/world is full of I'm alright Jack's, not giving two shits about anyone else but themselves.

@CurlyhairedAssassin - things are not "trivial" DC1 worked really hard to keep music up in a mainstream academic school and still win a state funded sixth form scholarship to their dream specialist music boarding school only to lose a whole term of their very time limited opportunity to benefit. May be trivial to you but certainly not to them......

I would like to clarify - I am in no way condoning the behaviour at all. It was disgraceful, my point is that Liverpool wasn’t the only place these scenes were happening but seems to be the only place getting the stick.

@TempsPerdu

They’re just normal young people acting just like normal young people do and they’re having to pay a much heavier price than older people like me

This. I’m quite pleased some younger people are realising what they’re losing and kicking back a bit. We can’t expect the young to act like altruistic automatons indefinitely.

So am I. I have teenagers (16-19) and I've been astounded by how law-abiding they and all their friends have been.

I have found it slightly odd. Young people are supposed to rebel against authority, not tell their middle-aged mother off for not obeying the rules.

Another Liverpool area poster here. Everyone I’ve spoken too is also disgusted and many say it’s mainly students due to where the incident took place.
Locals do not tend to drink there and it’s miles away from the most popular drinking areas in town.

However, students or not ( or a mixture ) the behaviour is bloody irresponsible but I’ve already said this week on another thread on here, many people are not taking this seriously and the compliance rate is rather low from what I see. Young people also think they’re invincible.

My own ds is 17 and wouldn’t dream of such antics, even if he was old enough. He has Aspergers and anxiety and lockdown has not been kind to him. He’s a shell of his former self and has lost so much of his identity and has struggled with lack of routine, all while doing his A levels.

Young people have absolutely missed out on more than someone my age (42) and they can never get that time back. Lots of ds’s close friends are turning 18 in the next few weeks and months ( his is March ) and they can’t do a thing.

The minority have got us in this situation. There are so many people who just don’t follow the rules and then moan when the pubs shut. I’m sick of it.

@Gizmo79

You who think that young people don’t get corona virus and become ill with it- they do, they may not die from it, but they will have life changing ongoing issues from it. By young I am talking up to 35. Or is that too old, if so, then at what age are we seen as being dispensable to the younger generation.

Not true

*@Bbq1**

If you think that the population of the UK was fully compliant in the war years you probably should do some social history research

the black market to get rationed food and goods, looting after bombing raids,

So that made it ok then ?

So when grandma with a heart condition dies on a trolley in some over crowded corridor.. I guess they will be fine with that.

They need to rub a couple of brain cells together and work out that THEIR ACTIONS damage others.

Younger people seem to think that many in the older generation don't care about climate change and our future,

Except that that they do. I was 14 when Rachel Carson published Silent Spring in 1972 ( roughly). We grew up with recyclable glass milk bottles and fizzy drink bottles, collected from the doorstep; children collected them for cash if they found one. Everything was wrapped in paper not plastic. Straws were paper, not plastic. One use plastics really became "a thing" in the 1990s.

One of my closest uni friends was hired by Friends of the Earth to organise big demonstrations to support whale populations in 1977.

We supported Rock Against Racism at the same time, and most of us haven't changed our views, but now we're told that Balck Lives Matter... sorry, they mattered then too, and we turned out in our millions to say so. But we generally managed to do all this without violence or trying to divide young from old.

Sorry those who want to pretend this is just as bad for young people if they catch it, its not. The government knows its not. If you ask young people to give up their freedoms, do so knowing they will get no personal benefit from it.

I know its more comforting to think we are all in this together, but its just not true that we are all equally paying the burden (much less for someone middle aged like me) and definitely not all equally benefitting.

Why are posters saying these people are entitled to get drunk, congregate in large groups and attack the police??

It's actually a bit concerning just how meek the police are given things will get worse the longer this goes on. Liverpool town centre was pretty much dead last night, even for a normal Tuesday night, but there was a police presence about (I posted a video a page or two back that was showing just how eerily quiet it actually was). Obviously any issues are going to occur when those who are out stumble out of the bars at the same time at 10pm. In Liverpool this is clearly going to be the area around Concert Square.

The fact the police can't control a relatively small crowd of what were mostly snotty-nosed teenage students hardly bodes well for what's likely to come next year if all this shit continues. It was bad enough last year in London with the BLM protests that got out of hand one week followed by the Tommy Robinson crowd the week after.

@MaxNormal

Because young people feel invincible. I behaved very foolishly in the 1990s in a country with a horrible HIV rate, and that was a certain death sentence at the time. I doubt the risk of a cold would have stopped me.

Me too and I am sure many MN at 18 would have done the same

@Katypyee

You saw this because it happened in Liverpool. Scenes like this have been happening all over the country. It isn't right. However, it isn't all Scousers. Always the easy target.

Also happening in the US , Italy ,Spain

Funny people playing cricket on the streets of Peckham didn’t come in for the same vitriol

Peckham hasn’t recently been named as the place in the U.K. with the highest number of cases.

Students. Not necessarily from Liverpool.

You can’t possibly know that.

@CandleWick4

I would like to clarify - I am in no way condoning the behaviour at all. It was disgraceful, my point is that Liverpool wasn’t the only place these scenes were happening but seems to be the only place getting the stick.

To be fair, there were doctored photos of Richmond Park, of Brockwell Park (both London) during lockdown and then the whole Bournemouth beach debacle (and Snowdon). But I said elsewhere it always feels like the southern media love to put the boot into Liverpool.