Two week circuit breaker - who's in favour?

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Keir Starmer is in favour - so are you?

If they did it over the next two weeks I actually wouldn't mind that much, as it's half term.

@SqidgeBum I don't think we can expect the government to bail us all out. They cant afford to hand out money so we can all live as we've become accustomed to. We are past that. I've lost almost everything, but I don't expect a bail out until I'm out of savings completely and am eligible for UC. They didn't create the virus.

What's more, I have never once given my real name or phone number to any stranger, and that includes Track and Trace people. There is no point, as I can't afford to self isolate if someone tells me I was within 2 miles of someone who might have a cough.

Does nobody understand that self-employed people actually have to be dead before they don't go to work, as nobody is going to pay them otherwise?

Lockdowns just delay the inevitable. People need to take personal responsibility for their own health.
Support should be directed at those that Need to shield.

@Hellohey I had savings. Almost all used up now.

Yes. I’m in favour.

We can never have a full lockdown because there will always be people who have to work. It's easy to say only food and medicine can be delivered and no repairs but people need carers, if the internet goes down it has to be fixed, if a boiler packs up someone has to repair or replace it, if there's a water leak a plumber needs to fix the problem.

@MH1111

Lockdowns just delay the inevitable. People need to take personal responsibility for their own health. Support should be directed at those that Need to shield.

Even Boris understands why that isn't an option.

Yes, but only if it was a full lockdown like before.

Perhaps ppl delivering food should lock down too.

I can see why state employed and WFH people are in favour and would be quite happy locking down every couple of months for years to come.

For the rest of us in the real economy the economic situation is far more serious than a respiratory virus.

@PracticingPerson in 2 weeks hospital numbers won’t drop. They probably will be higher (cause of nature of disease and development of symptoms). April was worse then March.

Then how do you justify a lockdown ending when numbers are higher? So it won’t be 2 weeks it will have to be at least 6 weeks.

I am really strict on adhering to the rules, but most people in this country aren’t. You only have to look at MN (why people feel they can break self isolation etc and a lockdown isn’t going to change that problem.

I was behind it, but less so now. It's been too long building up now, and a friend from Israel says it's been tried there, didn't work and just made people even more angry with one another.

No thanks. Not again.

[quote Chaotic45]@Hellohey I had savings. Almost all used up now. [/quote]
Its bad isn't it.

I'm in my 20s but a lot of my friends are within 18-24 age group and they're not hearing anything back either.

Every single part time vacancy in my area has many applicants for all different type of sectors.

I just don't agree with another lockdown.

I think people just need to use common sense and avoid high risk situations.

Definitely in favour. In fact I’d say one now and another one over xmas if needed when most people are at home anyway. And again at February half term. Hopefully that would see us through the worst of it and keep cases low. I’m sure a tight 2 week lockdown would be better for everyone than this constant light shutting down and would end up costing less. Children need to not go to school though else it will be pointless.

SAGE minutes say that if a 2-3 week fire break/circuit breaker was as strict and well-adhered to like the restrictions in late May, this could put the epidemic back by approximately 28 days

And that mere 28 days is exactly why it's futile to keep repeating something that's already failed, especially as:

With Dido in charge we're unlikely ever to have a functional tracking system
Case reporting is increasingly discredited and mixed messages have destroyed trust
Many ignore even basic restrictions and will certainly ignore tougher ones
Enforcement's completely inadequate and often isn't attempted, especially in culturally sensitive areas
The much-touted vaccine may never come, and may be less effective for the elderly even if it does
"Saving the NHS" lost its impact with much GP and hospital care unavailable even over the summer
The economic consequences are becoming more obvious with every day
... but mostly because the virus is going nowhere so there's little point trying to hide from it

Like so many, right from the start, I'm for supporting the severely vulnerable to shield and the rest getting on with it

Yes but can we start in a week's time when half term starts. That way it will also cover Halloween!

@Chaotic45 a bail out?!?!? I have a mortgage to pay, a toddler and a newborn to look after. It's not a f**ng bail out, like I have made a mistake and now need help. I didnt create this virus either, and i have already taken financial hits. What world are you living in that you somehow think basic financial support while you are being summoned to stay on house arrest is a bailout.

@Chaotic45 a bail out?!?!? I have a mortgage to pay, a toddler and a newborn to look after. It's not a f**ng bail out, like I have made a mistake and now need help. I didnt create this virus either, and i have already taken financial hits. What world are you living in that you somehow think basic financial support while you are being summoned to stay on house arrest is a bailout.

No thanks

@StaffAssociationRepresentative

Yes but can we start in a week's time when half term starts. That way it will also cover Halloween!

Preferably after 23rd as we're going away for the night and I'd like to get that in first!

I'm in low risk area at the moment down south and both dc, one at primary and one at secondary (separate sites) both have said someone in the year has it.

@Chaotic45

Beds are filling up. Awful decisions will need to be made. Many vivid patients are in ITU for weeks and weeks and weeks.

Beds will run out.

If you, you mother, your son or your friend needs a bed because they have been in a car accident, had a stroke, or have Covid there simply won't be a bed.

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Exactly.

Why people think the world will be back to pre Covid if we just stop locking down
Is beyond me.

It's not lockdown that's the problem, it's the bloody virus!!

Either way the economy is properly fucked, we might as well lock down & at least save lives!

Lolol no!

What’s the bloody point?! 2 weeks later we are back to where we are now! It’s like slapping a plaster on a punctured artery. We did 2 months of full lockdown and we are right back to where we were before so 2 weeks is utterly pointless

Yes I would but agree it should be extremely strict. If people think it’s two weeks they are much more likely to follow it than these half hearted measures that mean nothing.
It need to include schools / unis / shops etc though.
For those saying no what do you suggest when people who work in hospitals are actually seeing them fill up ?