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Two week circuit breaker - who's in favour?

567 replies

zafferana · 13/10/2020 17:37

Keir Starmer is in favour - so are you?

If they did it over the next two weeks I actually wouldn't mind that much, as it's half term.

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everythingthelighttouches · 13/10/2020 17:53

Aye

annabel85 · 13/10/2020 17:53

I cannot see an example of a two week lockdown worldwide that has achieved anything.

Short, sharp lockdowns worked in Aberdeen and Leicester.

Ilovemyhairbeingstroked · 13/10/2020 17:54

I’m undecided on this one - I think for it to be fully effective , it would need to be everything shut down .

annabel85 · 13/10/2020 17:54

@Letseatgrandma

If you did it and closed the schools for two weeks to actually break transmission lines, I would be in full support. Otherwise, there is no point-it will achieve nothing.
The compromise is to do it over half term so the kids are at least off for a week. They should make half term two weeks really if they're going to do it properly.
Jrobhatch29 · 13/10/2020 17:54

What would be closed? I know schools but what else? Would it just be essential shops open?

DamitJanet · 13/10/2020 17:55

I would be in favour but think it’d need to be really strict (close schools too etc) and for 3 or 4 weeks to have a real impact. Public opinion would need to on board and I don’t think that’ll happen to a great enough extent.

TheGreatWave · 13/10/2020 17:55

No, it simply won't work, mainly because I think you have little idea of how much input (i.e people) is needed to keep the country functioning. People will have to continue to mix to keep essential services going (healthcare, food supply chain, utilities etc)

annabel85 · 13/10/2020 17:57

What would be closed? I know schools but what else? Would it just be essential shops open?

Starmer wants to keep the schools open but tie into half term. Otherwise he said the same as March.

They should make half term two weeks IMO if they're going to do it.

Chaotic45 · 13/10/2020 17:57

I've always thought that surely if almost everyone stayed at home during the first lockdown then things would have improved much more quickly.

annabel85 · 13/10/2020 17:58

@TheGreatWave

No, it simply won't work, mainly because I think you have little idea of how much input (i.e people) is needed to keep the country functioning. People will have to continue to mix to keep essential services going (healthcare, food supply chain, utilities etc)
It'd be the same as March.
MaudesMum · 13/10/2020 17:58

Bit unfair for those of us in areas of the country with low rates, don't you think??

I'm also not sure how much compliance there'd be - and I'm sure there'd be a lot of fear that it would go on and on and on, as per last time.

Qasd · 13/10/2020 17:59

Leicester lockdown was def longer than two weeks, and they are still under greater restrictions now and have above average cases.

...Aberdeen I am unaware of was that only two weeks?

annabel85 · 13/10/2020 17:59

@DamitJanet

I would be in favour but think it’d need to be really strict (close schools too etc) and for 3 or 4 weeks to have a real impact. Public opinion would need to on board and I don’t think that’ll happen to a great enough extent.
The polling is hugely supportive of much stricter measures because they can see how grim winter will get if we can carry on as we are now. It's just a minority of people on social media that shout the loudest.
poshme · 13/10/2020 18:01

No.

I agree with @MaudesMum

Some of us are in areas with very low numbers. Why should our businesses be ruined?

cathyandclare · 13/10/2020 18:01

I've always thought that surely if almost everyone stayed at home during the first lockdown then things would have improved much more quickly

There were really high levels of compliance in the first few weeks of lockdown- everyone was terrified and roads were empty. We still locked down for months.

Chaotic45 · 13/10/2020 18:01

@annabel85 but in March loads of things actually remained open that really are not essential.

Anyone who could not work from home could carry on working.

Please think about how many people fit into that bracket.

If were extremely strict it would work.

AlohaMolly · 13/10/2020 18:02

If they’re going to do it they need to do it now, while furlough is still active. Compliance will be MUCH lower after end of October because who can cope on 67% of their wages?

JamSarnie · 13/10/2020 18:02

@TheGreatWave

No, it simply won't work, mainly because I think you have little idea of how much input (i.e people) is needed to keep the country functioning. People will have to continue to mix to keep essential services going (healthcare, food supply chain, utilities etc)
I often wonder when people say they want a strict lockdown whether they are happy for no deliveries of 'anything', no bins emptied, no emergency repairs in the home (let's hope you don't have a leak or your heating packs up), no electricity, water or gas engineers that keep the national supply ticking over, no carers going into homes for personal care, food deliveries, community nursing or health care, fuel deliveries. And that doesn't even cover the number of people that have to work to keep the hospitals going.

Basically even with a strict lockdown the country needs people to mix to function with basic services.

Jrobhatch29 · 13/10/2020 18:02

@annabel85

What would be closed? I know schools but what else? Would it just be essential shops open?

Starmer wants to keep the schools open but tie into half term. Otherwise he said the same as March.

They should make half term two weeks IMO if they're going to do it.

I would support a two week half term for kids I suppose. I wouldnt support places like non essential shops though. I think the transmission in clothes shops etc can't amount to much.
PracticingPerson · 13/10/2020 18:03

@MaudesMum

Bit unfair for those of us in areas of the country with low rates, don't you think??

I'm also not sure how much compliance there'd be - and I'm sure there'd be a lot of fear that it would go on and on and on, as per last time.

I don't see why it is 'unfair' (childish word) because you'll just be in an even better place afterwards.
annabel85 · 13/10/2020 18:03

@Qasd

Leicester lockdown was def longer than two weeks, and they are still under greater restrictions now and have above average cases.

...Aberdeen I am unaware of was that only two weeks?

Leicester got it under control within a couple of weeks, even if went on a bit longer. Aberdeen similar.

The local restrictions now in Leicester are useless, same as everywhere else.

Chaotic45 · 13/10/2020 18:03

@cathyandclare I disagree. People carried on mixing, and we were all allowed to carry on working if we couldn't work from home.

Sometimes it feels like people and politicians think only retail, beauty and hospitality workers can't work from home.

NotAKaren · 13/10/2020 18:04

I don't think it would work in 2/3 weeks and would end up being extended for months which would lead to a lot of anger. I have zero confidence that we would emerge to an improved test, track and trace system which would be necessary to keep cases down. I would be more in favour of a change to the rule of six which allows 6 people from 6 different households to mix. If households are a large part of the problem just limit it to two households for the lowest level tier.

annabel85 · 13/10/2020 18:04

[quote Chaotic45]@annabel85 but in March loads of things actually remained open that really are not essential.

Anyone who could not work from home could carry on working.

Please think about how many people fit into that bracket.

If were extremely strict it would work. [/quote]
True. They might halt non-essential construction this time for example.

But most things did shut down in March.

ColonSemiColon · 13/10/2020 18:06

Yes. The current situation is out of control