Worrying about 2nd national lockdown

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I’m extremely worried that we’ll end up in a 2nd national lockdown and the 1st one has delayed my things enough, it’s done enough damage as it is. I was sick of it, everyday was the same boring crap bull. I’m trying to sort my life out and if this second one happens it’s going to ruin it for a 2nd time. I haven’t slept for a few nights because I have just been stressed and worried that they’ll be a second national lockdown. If you understood what I was going through then you would understand. 2020 is over nearly and the majority of the year we have had this lockdown. I mean it’s just one thing after another.

If a significant amount of the population get Covid at once then that can collapse the economy and business as, mass amounts of people take sick leave at once

Why oh why can't people understand this? They kid themselves that if life goes back to normal, the virus will "just" take out the old and vulnerable. Everyone else can go on their merry way and if they do get Covid it will be a bit of a cold.

I think there is a lot of denial about how much shit we are all in at the moment.

Ppl will stop carrying on like normal when fines are given and actually enforced

Yeah well we actually need a full and efficient police force in able to do that... You know a bit like the one the government decimated?

Or empowered Covid Marshall’s 😂😂

‘’You child falls off the sofa and breaks their arm but there is no A&E service through the night so they have to wait until morning in pain’’

I had a child last year who broke a bone in the middle of the night and was in so much pain we couldn’t move her to get her into the car to take her to the hospital. We had to wait 4 hours for an ambulance which then had to stop another 2 hours on the way as we stumbled upon a car accident en route and police took 2 hours to arrive to take over the scene. Then she had poor care in a heaving A&E. It was horrific. I wouldn’t wish it upon my worst enemy. Our health system is crap for many at the best of times, imagine what it’s like when overrun with Covid.

It's a comfortable position to dress eugenics up as an ethical conundrum.
Trying to protect that elderly person from Covid isn't, however, killing tens of thousands from hunger in Africa.
That's kind of where the despicable othering and whatabouters falls flat on its selfish alt-right face.

My mental health wouldn't cope with another lockdown. I regularly considered suicide during the last one. I can't do it again.

@kittensarecute

My mental health wouldn't cope with another lockdown. I regularly considered suicide during the last one. I can't do it again.

If your mental health wouldn’t cope with another lockdown then I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t cope with the only alternative we have now which is hospitals overflowing and people dying on trolleys, knowing that if you needed any sort of medical health it wouldn’t be available.

I’m sorry you have mental issues but even during any future lockdown now I’m sure people will still be able to form support bubbles as that’s very very important.

Completely agree OP. Most of the people in favour of another lockdown probably have cushy jobs with guaranteed wages and no concerns about mental health issues or being made redundant. They can just sit at home enjoying pretending to work while the rest of us have sleepless nights wondering how we’re going to pay the mortgage and the bills and put food on the table for our kids as our jobs go down the pan. Once again it’s the less well off who get screwed.

And before anyone has a go, I’m now months away from losing my home because of this shitty situation. It’s terrifying.

@peasoup8

Completely agree OP. Most of the people in favour of another lockdown probably have cushy jobs with guaranteed wages and no concerns about mental health issues or being made redundant. They can just sit at home enjoying pretending to work while the rest of us have sleepless nights wondering how we’re going to pay the mortgage and the bills and put food on the table for our kids as our jobs go down the pan. Once again it’s the less well off who get screwed.

While agree with sentiment of this you lost me at 'sit at home pretending to work'.

I've WFH since March and I can promise you there has be no 'pretending' at all and I still have the worry of pay cuts and redundancy

Fair enough Sue. I just can’t take much more of this - I really can’t. If I lose my home it will kill me.

@Someonesayroadtrip. Absolutely correct and I can never understand why so many don’t see this.

@peasoup8

Fair enough Sue. I just can’t take much more of this - I really can’t. If I lose my home it will kill me.

It's such a shit situation and I completely agree. This whole situation has shown me that people are unable to empathise and see other people's perspective. There seems to be a real lack of understanding around the economic impact of a second lockdown. I really hope things work out for you.

The people I know arguing for stricter measures are all quite well off and happily ensconced at home. Easy for them to say stay home.

Easy for them to say stay home

Less people for you to mix woth or bump into then.

@TheSeedsOfADream

It's a comfortable position to dress eugenics up as an ethical conundrum. Trying to protect that elderly person from Covid isn't, however, killing tens of thousands from hunger in Africa. That's kind of where the despicable othering and whatabouters falls flat on its selfish alt-right face.

This - carefully writing it out as as if it's an interesting ethical conundrum doesn't actually hide what's really meant.

Also, lockdown itself does not prevent any particular kind of medical treatment. Hospitals having to (a) manage (or be ready to manage) high numbers of covid patients, and (b) rejig treatments and procedures to make them safe for patients in a world in which covid exists, is what has affected medical treatment the most - not rules about pubs being open or closed or who we can meet and where. Medical treatment will be affected even more badly if infection levels rise again - people who need treatment need hospitals not to be full of covid patients, or full of staff and visitors more likely to be carrying covid because it's rife in the local community. I've had medical treatment postponed myself - not because of lockdown, because of the virus. Both postponed treatment and lockdown are effects of the virus spreading freely and won't be solved by that happening more.

It's necessary to point out that hospitals risk being unable to treat non-covid conditions, because so many people don't seem to understand it. You can call it an appeal to selfishness or you can call it pointing out a fact - albeit a fact that the people keenest to let most people get back to normal and sod anyone else in particular might want to think about.