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I'm so angry...

419 replies

MaryShelley1818 · 05/10/2020 14:22

We are in an area with local restrictions so high transmission rates in the North East of England.

Someone I know had her 40th at the weekend and photos on FB of her having a party in a pub, cake presents, her and kids, her parents, her sister who works at a local University in a very high position, and about 4-5 friends. No Social Distancing, drinking, cuddling, shots, photos.
How are people just carrying on as normal??!! How can you be so bloody thick as to post all the photos on FB. Am I missing something?? I'm furious.

We've followed every single rule but seems I'm in the minority and the longer people just do whatever they want for, the longer I'll have to go without seeing my friends and family.

OP posts:
cologne4711 · 05/10/2020 17:41

Why was it ok for me to pass on flu last year and potentially kill someone, but not ok for me to pass on covid this year? Beyond actual actions I take to hurt you, I am not responsible for your health and you are not responsible for mine. Living means risk, and some of that risk is getting ill This.

However, if you are going to blatantly break the rules, don't be silly enough to post it on social media!

OverTheRainbow88 · 05/10/2020 17:44

Good god, if an adult can't go one year without a big Birthday party in a pub there's something very very wrong with them. This is the most melodramatic statement.

But it’s not just one birthday party missed, it’s coming up to 7 months of social restrictions... there’s only so long people are going to bother following the rules.

TheDailyCarbuncle · 05/10/2020 17:56

@OverTheRainbow88

Good god, if an adult can't go one year without a big Birthday party in a pub there's something very very wrong with them. This is the most melodramatic statement.

But it’s not just one birthday party missed, it’s coming up to 7 months of social restrictions... there’s only so long people are going to bother following the rules.

I find it somewhat horrifying when people make out that missing things for a few months or a year is no big deal, as though covid is the only thing that can kill them or anyone they know so it doesn't really matter if life is put on hold for months because everyone will definitely still be there next year, happy and healthy. This year alone I know two people who died very suddenly from causes other than covid. If they or their family were thinking 'no big deal to miss a party, we can do it next year,' then they were very sadly wrong. Missing months of living is far from 'not a big deal' for the thousands upon thousands of people for whom, for various reasons other than covid, 2020 will be their last year alive.
OverTheRainbow88 · 05/10/2020 18:00

@TheDailyCarbuncle

I agree, and sorry for your losses.
My MIL was diagnosed with terminal illness the week into lockdown, she won’t make it to Xmas. So her last 9 months alive have been terrible and isolating.

Enoughnowstop · 05/10/2020 18:00

People have been handed the responsibility of protecting people from a virus that they may or may not have. They have been told that if they, without any malice or intention, infect another person while going about their everyday life they are personally responsible for that. And in order to prevent it from happening, they have to deny themselves a job, a social life, the potential to travel and meet new people

Utter bollox. The responsibility is a collective one - that we shouldn't all dismiss the virus and think 'fuck it' meaning hundreds of thousands of us get sick over a relatively short period of time. That's what we're trying to avoid. That if the NHS isn't over-whelmed, some routine and urgent appointments can continue as normal. That if the NHS isn't over-whelmed, emergency response still continues. That if the NHS isn't over-whelmed, people in the 20s, 30s, 40s, and 50s with huge amounts of living left to do get the treatment they need to continue their lives. A collective responsibility to recognise if we all get sick together, essential services won't be able to continue - whether that's ambulance driving, community policing, drivers who move food from A to B and supermarket workers who make sure it gets out on the shelves, people working in water/sewage works, electricity and gas providers etc. etc. etc.

If you want us to continue to ignore the rules, then you are seeking a very difficult time for all of us where you will fear getting unwell, you will be fearful of stepping out of your front door due to higher levels of crime, rubbish not being collected for weeks on end, and you will struggle to meet your family's basic food needs. Hyper-inflation will likely follow along with some kind of marshall law and the deployment of the armed forces onto the streets.

Of course, it is absolutely dreadful that people are struggling with their mental health, that routine health appointments are not happening and schools closed. But the alternative is something very, very different and far more worrying. I am no fan of this Government at all, but I can see what they are attempting to do is just to delay the inevitable spread of the virus whilst keeping as much of the economy and daily life going as they possible can. Just saying 'fuck it, make your own decisions' ignores the bigger and far worse picture that will affect us all.

I am utterly fatigued by what is going on. I am lonely and desperate for better interaction with friends. But at what cost? It's not about whether I get sick or make them sick, it is that far bigger picture that the Government has tried hard not to mention (although the speech last week mentioned putting the army on the streets, albeit fleetingly). So I use zoom to have a drink with friends and family, have my shopping delivered and stay in during my freetime and I trust that the majority are doing the same. If you can't do that, then you need to accept that you will ensure that this period of difficulty will last longer than it needs to for everyone.

randomer · 05/10/2020 18:00

The government have lost control, they have no idea what’s going on

Agree

ImSleepingBeauty · 05/10/2020 18:05

@StylishMummy

You'd hate me OP, we had 4 grandparents round for DD's birthday. We were allowed to see them one week and not the next. We're allowed to book adjacent tables in the pub or go to school, but not see grandparents in our home? Fuck the rules in that context.
The whole point is that Covid is continuing to spread in private homes, not in pubs or schools. So yes, the rules in that context should be followed

"Fuck the rules" from people like you is going to keep the rest of us having to follow them for longer. Thanks so much!

👆 This will bells on. Selfish arseholes.

randomer · 05/10/2020 18:07

re the carer and the virus, a well respected and knowledgeable friend ( who works in health care) told me she has witnessed herself ,the inaccuracy of testing. Tests just dumped together, not even labelled properly. The latest fiasco with testing is all over the news.
Its a joke, a bad one.

ChodeOfChodeBall · 05/10/2020 18:09

@TheDailyCarbuncle

Some people are just selfish, I agree. In order for them to avoid one risk, they want everyone else to increase hundreds of other risks. Because there's one illness they're afraid of, they want others to live in misery, lose their jobs, not see their families. Selfish doesn't really cover it IMO.
@TheDailyCarbuncle If there were a prize for the best post on MN in recent months, you would deserve to win it several times over just for this comment (not to mention your others).

A welcome voice of sanity amid the hysteria.

ChodeOfChodeBall · 05/10/2020 18:12

@Tootletum

Completely see why it's frustrating. I have followed every stupid rule, I think they're all bollocks, but a) I follow the law, and b) I don't want my kids to learn that adults can just do as they please.
I am glad that my children (now adults, or nearly adults) have not learned that they should always "do as they are told", when what they are being told to do is nonsensical bollocks.
RigaBalsam · 05/10/2020 18:14

If there were a prize for the best post on MN in recent months, you would deserve to win it several times over just for this comment (not to mention your others).

A welcome voice of sanity amid the hysteria.

Wow just goes to show. I think the absolute opposite. Clueless with no idea of the bigger picture.

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 05/10/2020 18:14

I agree OP. I’ve been saddened by the amount who won’t follow the rules/guidelines/law because they don’t want to or don’t see why they should. I fear for the next generation if they see being selfish as the norm.

You can’t risk assess this as actions affect others. It’s not just yourself or family, it’s everyone you come into contact with.

FreshFreesias · 05/10/2020 18:16

OP, let people get on with their lives.
This bedwetting hysteria is doing my head in.

coffeeandteav · 05/10/2020 18:24

It's like a sick game of top Trumps. No easy answer.

Pieceofpurplesky · 05/10/2020 18:25

Someone I know has a houseful every weekend. Neighbours invited, kids, friends. Probably 20+ every weekend. They are very careful to avoid social media but some of the kids use snapchat and have put things on there (my son shows me!). Everyone is annoyed but nobody has reported them

ChloeCrocodile · 05/10/2020 18:25

Some laws are stupid, or unethical, and shouldn’t be followed. I worry far more about people who follow rules blindly and without thinking for themselves than I do about those deemed “selfish” for seeing terminally ill family members, or hugging their own children.

All this concern about “the vulnerable” doesn’t wash either. Nobody cared that much about them before COVID. IMO most people use “the vulnerable” as a cover because they are actually worried about themselves. Much like all the concern this summer about students from low income families - nobody gives a stuff that they underachieve every single year, but they provided a convenient cover for middle class parents whose DC got worse grades than expected this year.

Chloemol · 05/10/2020 18:28

@Itisasecret @AgentCooper

I don’t see how the op is hysterical, she is venting that she has followed rules, some of which are now enshrined in law, someone else hasn’t and has been stupid enough to post that all over FB

No one is saying restrictions are the ‘new normal’ as, hopefully they wont be with us forever, but as is evidenced by current figures, they are on the rise again. Something predicted when this all started as there was concern over colder weather, and we are seeing cases now schools and universities are back, and more shops, pubs etc are open.

I have friends who have had it, not nice, and it’s looking like one is going to have some very long term effects from it, and a friends brother died from it.

All that’s being asked at the moment is people stick to the rule of 6, it’s not difficult.

What this has shown though is just how selfish a lot of people in this country, have become. And from the comments the both of you have made, in my opinion, you are included in that

vanillandhoney · 05/10/2020 18:29

I agree OP. I’ve been saddened by the amount who won’t follow the rules/guidelines/law because they don’t want to or don’t see why they should. I fear for the next generation if they see being selfish as the norm.

Meh, personally I fear for the next generation because their futures are being ruined by continuous lockdowns and school closures, not to mention economic destruction and the collapse of entire sectors of industry.

MadameBlobby · 05/10/2020 18:30

@TheDailyCarbuncle

I find the idea that if everyone followed the rules everything could go back to normal utterly incomprehensible. Is it the case that people really believe that we can follow rules for a while (how long?) and covid will just disappear or something?
Yep this.

I am following all the rules but don’t really give a shit about what other people do, in a way I can’t blame them, all this crap has gone on long enough with no seeming point to it and no end in sight. I’m just a rule follower generally. You can’t control what others do just worry about yourself

Unsure33 · 05/10/2020 18:30

I think a lot of the posters on here should have a bit of respect and go and go and read the thread by the nhs staff about how they are feeling about the virus .

Plus it’s all too easy to criticise the rules when we all know they have to change when the risk changes.

I don’t think it’s the rules that are the problem it’s the people who won’t follow them that are the trouble.

Unsure33 · 05/10/2020 18:32

@vanillandhoney

And yet the government are accused of putting money and economics before lives ?

And told they locked down too late ?

Now who is confused?

Itisasecret · 05/10/2020 18:32

[quote Chloemol]**@Itisasecret* @AgentCooper*

I don’t see how the op is hysterical, she is venting that she has followed rules, some of which are now enshrined in law, someone else hasn’t and has been stupid enough to post that all over FB

No one is saying restrictions are the ‘new normal’ as, hopefully they wont be with us forever, but as is evidenced by current figures, they are on the rise again. Something predicted when this all started as there was concern over colder weather, and we are seeing cases now schools and universities are back, and more shops, pubs etc are open.

I have friends who have had it, not nice, and it’s looking like one is going to have some very long term effects from it, and a friends brother died from it.

All that’s being asked at the moment is people stick to the rule of 6, it’s not difficult.

What this has shown though is just how selfish a lot of people in this country, have become. And from the comments the both of you have made, in my opinion, you are included in that[/quote]
Oh pipe down. Just because I don’t judge others. I’ve not broken any rules. It makes me sick that people like you cannot stop judging others. It’s horrific what some people have become.

DeliciouslyFemale · 05/10/2020 18:38

I really wish that all the experts on here that know better that the medical experts, were in charge. I’m sure that we’d be absolutely fine once herd immunity - -survival of the fittest- - kicked in. Of course I will have lost my youngest child and quite possibly my oldest, but so long as people can have house parties, that’s then main thing. 🙄 And yes, before you bleat on about I have been horribly financially affected by the COVID situation.

kittensarecute · 05/10/2020 18:39

I need my life back, I need to be able to do the things that make me happy.
I can't put up with this joyless existence anymore.

MadameBlobby · 05/10/2020 18:40

The country isn’t run by medical experts, thank goodness. The economy would be completely in the toilet if it was.