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Warrington. Unofficial Lockdown Request.

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RedToothBrush · 15/09/2020 11:39

I'm posting this here, as it seems to have been missed by just about every news outlet out there and although I've touched on this on other threads and been asked a bit about it, I thought it probably merited its own thread now.

There is a growing problem in the area which should be of real concern to everyone due to the degree that its been under the radar.

Last night the council issued a request to be stricter than the official Rule of Six if you live in the borough

Warrington Borough Council @WarringtonBC
Please don't visit other households unless you need to. With case numbers rising rapidly, and steeply, over the last few weeks, we all need to play our part to stop the spread of the virus:
www.warrington.gov.uk/news/warrington-residents-urged-not-visit-other-households?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=SocialSignIn&utm_content=COVID-19

In a bid to contain the transmission of coronavirus, and to help drive down the number of cases in the town, Warrington’s Public Health leaders are appealing to residents not to visit other households.

Case numbers in Warrington have risen rapidly, and steeply, over the last couple of weeks and residents are being urged to play their part, now, to avoid the risk of the town going into a local lockdown. Confirmed cases in the most recent verified seven-day period are now over 200.

There is clear evidence to show that households are the most likely setting for the virus to spread, so residents should avoid visiting other people at home, including visiting people in private gardens, unless you have formed a household support bubble. People can meet outdoors in open, public spaces as long as they follow the new ‘rule of six’ – that is, a maximum of six people can meet from multiple households, as long as they continue to socially distance themselves from one another. But Warrington residents are being urged not to visit other people at home if they don’t need to – both inside and outside the borough.

This decision will be kept under constant review, but a formal assessment will be made in three weeks’ time, on 5 October.

A bit of background to this:

It's currently the 6th Worst Place in England for new infections within the last 7 days rolling period. Yesterday the rate was 98.1 per 100,000. On 2nd September it was 9 per 100,000. It was 2.9 the previous week. Cases have been low throughout the Summer despite being so close to Greater Manchester.

This spike seems to have been ignored / missed as a concern. Warrington didn't make last week's PHE areas of concern list. Nor has there been anything in the media about the sharp rise outside the local newspaper.

Whats particularly concerned is the spread of this and how there seems to be multiple outbreaks occuring. The rise in cases has affects all wards of the council. Initially cases seems to have started in the poorer north of the town (where the town centre is). Which is where you would expect to appear at least initially.

It needs to be pointed out here, that the town has recovered to pre-covid levels of footfall too - one of only 14 towns to do so.

The north is traditionally much much more deprieved than the south and the north and south are very socially divided with a 'them and us' mentality that stretches along the division of the Manchester Ship Canal. People don't mix too much socially between the two.

There are now numerous cases being reported in the much more rural and affluent wards of South Warrington. So it looks like its spread to different communities. There is a mentality that it was 'safe' in these wards because its more middle class, less densely populated etc etc.

It really goes against the stereotypes of where covid 'should be'.

The Chief Executive of the local NHS trust has sent out a daily update today to staff which a friend described as 'making for sobering reading' about the infection rate. Hospital admissions for covid are up too.

The focus in the media over the last few days has been about other areas 'which are the 10 worst affected' not being able to get hold of tests. Warrington wasn't one of these 10 worst affected listed despite its ranking in terms of new infections.

As Warrington isn't being seen as a problem, its not getting attention and there seems to be a particular shortage of testing in the northwest. There's a real struggle to get tested - people were being directed to Telford earlier in the week. There isn't a permenant testing site in the borough - only a shared mobile one with Halton which has moved throughout the summer - though the council are trying to sort this. Warrington, without Halton, has a population of 100,000. There are testing sites just outside the council area but its not helping the current situation.

Sky yesterday reported
Director of public health for Cheshire West and Chester, Ian Ashworth, said: "Additional testing capacity is essential to help prevent further spread of the virus in Cheshire and Merseyside but also the North West.

"Currently the North West region has 25% of the COVID-19 national cases and yet has access to only 15% of the national testing capacity."

And it seems that the known hot spots of Greater Manchester are getting most attention (and therefore priority).

No one wants to acknowledge the growing problem in Warrington. Its like its invisible.

I don't know if Warrington is unique or there are other similar areas which are currently under the radar - my suspicion is there are.

Its deeply frustrating that no one seems to be paying attention nor realising what is potentially starting to unfold. Its really reactionary and slow. And whilst this only will directly/indirectly affect the small number of posters who live there/have family or friends there, it should be something others are concerned about because it highlights how fast a picture can change and how unprepared a lot of areas seem for a fast change and how to cope with it.

The chances of the borough getting to the 5th October review without an intervention sooner at the rate cases are going up, seems slim.

I'm hoping that by starting a thread and screaming about it as loudly as possible, SOMEONE will start waking up SOMEWHERE and start asking the necessary relevant questions which are important to everyone no matter where they live.

These questions are about Warrington alone. They are about the wider implications of responsiveness and a lack of awareness of whats going on.

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Menomadness · 17/09/2020 16:21

@TokyoSushi

It's very odd. Unless I'm reading the data incorrectly, it says to me that we definitely need a local lockdown, and quite a severe one at that and so does Liverpool. Whenever the NW is mentioned, Warrington is skirted over and completely ignored.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to over dramatise the situation or create hysteria. It just seems very strange that it's being largely ignored and we don't even seem to be on the reader. I don't want a local lockdown either (I don't want an election, you don't want an election anybody?!) But I'm just concerned that our numbers are terrible, and one day somebody is going to wake up and say 'Oh Shit, look at Warrington!' and by then it will be too late.

That is what I cannot understand looking at the numbers. What am I missing?
TokyoSushi · 17/09/2020 16:23

I really don't know! I overheard a few people at school talking about an announcement from the council at 5pm, I assume it's the briefing, I'll be interested to hear what they say!

TokyoSushi · 17/09/2020 16:25

3395 new cases nationwide today, so it's definitely increasing, even with the woeful lack of testing, I dread to think what the real number is!

RedToothBrush · 17/09/2020 17:30

Restrictions incoming.

Warrington. Unofficial Lockdown Request.
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RedToothBrush · 17/09/2020 17:34

Hannah Miller @hannahitv
Warrington Borough Council is asking people not to visit households, including private gardens.

Public Health Director @TharaRajNHS says she doesn't want to stop people visiting relatives in care homes, but they need to think about where they have been in recent days.

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RedToothBrush · 17/09/2020 17:36

Hannah Miller @hannahitv
For people who are clinically extremely vulnerable in Warrington, @TharaRajNHS says shielding remains paused - as it is nationally.

Keep social distancing and try not to allow people into your home unless they are providing support - 'carry on as we are'.

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HeyMacarona · 17/09/2020 17:39

Measures for Liverpool expected tomorrow:

theguideliverpool.com/liverpool-lockdown-measures-imminent-as-coronavirus-cases-rise/

CallmeIT · 17/09/2020 18:02

Another local confused as to why the North East has measures yet we do not. We’ve all got the dreaded cold a PP mentioned and are now behaving as though in lockdown. DC are in school still but no other social contacts (cases not currently affecting their bubbles, though it’s surely only a matter of time).

RedToothBrush · 17/09/2020 18:07

Warrington general has had significant increase in covid admissions this week.

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Bettyboxer · 17/09/2020 18:11

www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/news/18729107.residents-warned-enhanced-restrictions-curb-spread-coronavirus/

Warrington Guardian’s story on the briefing - seems like it didn’t really give any info we didn’t already know 🤷‍♀️

pussycatinboots · 17/09/2020 18:40

Interesting that Warrington Council is the same as Cheshire East wrt "covid marshalls" - no funding and no idea on what powers they might have.🤷🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

TokyoSushi · 17/09/2020 18:42

I watched the briefing, it seemed to all be a bit keep calm and carry on. They admitted that they restricted home to home visits as it was quick and easy to implement, and doesn't have a financial implication. They don't seem very keen at all on restrictions on businesses because of the economy.

The age old question of why are the pubs still open if you can't see people in their homes was answered with them not wanting to affect jobs 'but of course it's up to you, you don't have to go.'

Interesting to see what the next few days will bring. I have a friend who works in ICU at Warrington who says they're in the process of setting back up for a full covid response again...

NP89 · 17/09/2020 20:58

Warrington and Halton hospital admissions gone from 3 last week to 15 and 2 people moved to ICU. It’s definitely on the up. 400 deaths in Spain in last 2 days and I think the UK is about 4/5 weeks behind them.

Sirzy · 17/09/2020 21:03

I don’t get why they don’t tighten things up now for a couple of week and hopefully get control back rather than letting it get worse and then looking to take action.

I know it’s bad. I am actually worried my MIL won’t be able to come over from Spain for Christmas rather than happy at the idea!

IHateCoronavirus · 17/09/2020 21:22

If they adopt tighter restrictions they are going to have to find a way to either police it or convince people it is for the best. We were told from DCs school masks now had to be worn at pick up/drop off unless exempt. Approx 20% wore masks! There surely isn’t that many people exempt!

iolaus · 17/09/2020 21:31

In RCT we had 'please do these things to avoid lockdown' (work from home if possible, only travel if essential, care homes shut back down)
That was on the 10th - lockdown started a few hours ago

RedToothBrush · 18/09/2020 10:06

Warrington guardian live feed is briefing that 10 hospitality venues in the town have had covid outbreaks.

It sounds like there has been a crackdown on businesses flouting this or businesses have panicked about a local lockdown. But places still sound busy from the context of the story.

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pussycatinboots · 18/09/2020 11:26

The Government need to close the pubs, bars and restaurants NOW in Warrington, and other areas where there seems to be a huge increase in cases.

TokyoSushi · 18/09/2020 11:38

This is interesting, seems to imply that we're going to be included in Liverpool's local lockdown later on today. No idea when, how or even if an announcement will be made.

www.cheshire-live.co.uk/news/chester-cheshire-news/warrington-infection-rate-passes-lockdown-18954435?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar&fbclid=IwAR3OqTBpuexXNlgFb0N1dtKiJ46qsI0_QiZfemt8U2l9zqxgleEvfLB8S8Q

Heffalooomia · 18/09/2020 11:53

@pussycatinboots

The Government need to close the pubs, bars and restaurants NOW in Warrington, and other areas where there seems to be a huge increase in cases.
But that would be a tacit admission that opening pubs bars and restaurants was a stupid move and that would be embarrassing for them, they don't like to be embarrassed it's too uncomfortable Who cares if the peasants die, wealthy important people should not be embarrassed
RedToothBrush · 18/09/2020 11:58

I think there needs to be a distinction here.

Is it restaurants and bars that are a problem or is it restaurants and bars which arent enforcing proper covid restrictions?

Andy Burnham has said he wants greater powers locally to shut down venues for non compliance as at the moment they have to go to the secretary of state to do this.

Greater restrictions in Manchester have been delayed pending the government considering this.

It strikes me there is an argument here for why there seems to be some delay about a Merseyside local lockdown.

Is a blanket closure of bars and restaurants really the solution here? Im not convinced.

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Thisisneverending · 18/09/2020 12:11

Just announced on sky that Warrington will have restrictions from next Tuesday, haven’t announced what yet.

Sirzy · 18/09/2020 12:13

So yet again they are waiting over the weekend to do it, so those who don’t care anyway are all going to be out and about this weekend getting pissed and possibly spreading things

RedToothBrush · 18/09/2020 12:14

www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/news/18730992.asda-westbrook-staff-test-positive-coronavirus/
Outbreak at Asda Westbrook.

Fab-u-lous

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Redcrayons · 18/09/2020 12:22

Restrictions are on the Liverpool Echo website. I can’t link as it keeps forcing me into the app.

I’m in Halton so also included.

But, why wait till Tuesday if it’s problem now?

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