Do people realise that if their child's bubble bursts.....

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.....and that child is therefore sent home from school for 14 days, the child is supposed to stay solely within their own house or garden for that entire period? They might be completely well for the full 14 days, but during that time, they can't take any walks. No bike rides. No drives in the car. If they haven't got a garden, they cannot go outside at all.

Many, many children are going to be in this position very soon - quite possibly multiple times - and it goes some way beyond the initial lockdown situation.

Ds1 was in self isolation for 5 weeks during lockdown as first one then another of us came down with COVID and he kept getting sent back to the start. So 5 weeks of nothing but house, sick family and small back garden.

He survived- and then later got a COVID toe so was obviously infected and quite possibly infectious at some point, even though he had had no symptoms at all.

You can rationalise all sorts of reasons why your child couldn't possibly stick to this or couldn't possibly be infected. The virus simply doesnt care.

@RedCatBlueCat

Grrretel so a single cough counts as an episode? Thank you.

Only if it's new. If we self isolated in this house each time somebody had three or more episodes of coughing in 24 hours we'd have been at home all year.

OP do you think everyone apart from you is actually thick? 🙄

I don’t know what my kids’ school is planning but I will only follow rules that make logical scientific sense. If the park down the road is empty and my kids are isolating, they can go to the park.

Completely agree with this way of thinking.
If my child is told they have to self isolate I will not be making them stay inside for 14 days. There's a huge beautiful beach near me which is empty during the week so we're not going to stay locked up at home when we can go out and get some fresh air while not putting anyone else at risk.

A pp said that it's only for 14 days. Maybe it is only 14 days but you have no idea of peoples individuals circumstances, their mental health, their physical health...or any other factors that may make another 14 days stuck inside seem unbearable.

There are exceptions to this op! Specifically people and children with SEN or a serious mental health need for them to get out. On these occasions it should be to places were there are no others. It's also been noted that dogs can still be exercised outside with the same restrictions. It is also the case that it is the child who must isolate as the direct contact to the infection. I'm told the parents don't have to unless the child begins to show symptoms.

But it's not about thinking you're special.

Not everyone can afford not to go to work because someone their DC may or may not have had contact with has tested positive. Some people are self-employed.

Also surely you can apply some common sense to any situation. And depending on where you live it's perfectly possible to safely take an isolating child for a walk. Or walk a dog without going near anyone else.

As much as people are screaming it is, it's just not possible for some people to stay inside their house for 14 days and not leave.

We already know the people at the top are making choices based on what's best for their families, so am I.

If you have multiple children and one bubble bursts are they all meant to stay home or are the others expected to go to school while the other rings a bell? - I haven't rtft - but it just hit me after reading the title that I have no idea now

@FourTeaFallOut

If you have multiple children and one bubble bursts are they all meant to stay home or are the others expected to go to school while the other rings a bell? - I haven't rtft - but it just hit me after reading the title that I have no idea now

No, only the person who has been in close contact needs to isolate, unless they develop symptoms, then the whole household.

Brilliant. Thanks FinnyStory

@FinnyStory

Even in a primary school, every child isn't in "close contact" with every other child.

Rubbish! What about playtime? Of course they are!

No one should be expected to stay inside for 14 days if it means people in the household getting attacked and injured. That is what some people are dealing with.

There was a covid case I my daughters year but they have not sent her home. Only if there is a cluster apparently

Play time means every child is closer than 2m to every other child for more than 15 mins? How long is playtime ?

That is absolutely unenforceable. After 3:30 on school days who could possible know who was supposed to be isolating.

I'm not saying break the rules.... I'm saying they'd be no way to enforce them outside of school hours.

Yes I know that. I’d say most people understand what self isolation is as its been around for months. Not sure the purpose of the post?

@FourTeaFallOut

If you have multiple children and one bubble bursts are they all meant to stay home or are the others expected to go to school while the other rings a bell? - I haven't rtft - but it just hit me after reading the title that I have no idea now

Yes, its ridiculous! So you haven't been in close contact with your child? Surely you book a test then make a decision?

How the fuck do you hide the COVID sections? Sick to death of seeing these kinds of posts

The school RA should include details of how they will "figure that out". Ours does.

I’m sure it should FinnyStory, but it doesn’t. Even the things it does include aren’t actually happening.

Nurseries near us are taking children back as soon as they have a negative result after a positive, so sometimes only missing a day or Two
The nursery should not be admitting anyone who has had a positive test for 10 days after their symptoms started. If any nursery is breaking those rules they should be reported to public health as they are putting everyone else at risk. The nursery should also be considering that the parents of the child should be isolating for 14 days After the first family member started with symptoms, so it would be impossible for them to get the child to nursery if they were following the rules.

I would think really seriously if I wanted a child in a setting that wasn’t following the rules around this.

If the test were to come back negative and child had never had a positive test, the child can go back once they are well enough to attend.

Well, honestly, the idea that a child with zero symptoms is too dangerous to even go for an isolated walk for 14 days, because someone in their enormous school bubble has coronavirus, but the rest of that child’s family can still go to school, work and socialise, is f*cking ridiculous. If the symptomless child is that lethal to society, then so are the rest of the household. Given the fact the rest of the household can still trot about the place, it is not bloody surprising there is little respect for, or understanding of, the rules.

My understanding is that if you have a persistent cough that you can't shift by coughing for an hour plus, then that is grounds for seeking a test. A single cough or sneeze isn't. So a response to a strong smell or dust cloud is not grounds for concern. But just my interpretation of the rules. Hopefully common sense lead.

@HipTightOnions

The school RA should include details of how they will "figure that out". Ours does.

I’m sure it should FinnyStory, but it doesn’t. Even the things it does include aren’t actually happening.

I honestly.dont think that's typical. We are right on it.

Just deal with it. I shouldn't be expected to keep my kids in the house to protect the vunerable child since March...yes almost 6 months now because other idiots can't be bothered to follow the rules for a 2 week period ! And there is many many many people around the country in this situation still. So sorry if I lack sympathy when someone moans about their darling feral child not possibly being able to cope with 2 weeks in the house (mental health conditions and learning disabilities, autism, ADHD etc aside)

@FinnyStory

There really shouldn't be any reason for an entire bubble to "burst". Only those who have been 1-2m for 15 min plus etc etc need to isolate. That isn't going to be a whole year group.

Well for lower primary school classes this will be the whole class.

@gallbladderpain

Just deal with it. I shouldn't be expected to keep my kids in the house to protect the vunerable child since March...yes almost 6 months now because other idiots can't be bothered to follow the rules for a 2 week period ! And there is many many many people around the country in this situation still. So sorry if I lack sympathy when someone moans about their darling feral child not possibly being able to cope with 2 weeks in the house (mental health conditions and learning disabilities, autism, ADHD etc aside)

I completely agree!