Do people realise that if their child's bubble bursts.....

[IfYouCantSeeMyMirrors]

.....and that child is therefore sent home from school for 14 days, the child is supposed to stay solely within their own house or garden for that entire period? They might be completely well for the full 14 days, but during that time, they can't take any walks. No bike rides. No drives in the car. If they haven't got a garden, they cannot go outside at all.

Many, many children are going to be in this position very soon - quite possibly multiple times - and it goes some way beyond the initial lockdown situation.

As for SN schools - staff there have just been thrown to the wolves in terms of risk from the virus.

I’m just going to do my best in line with this part of the guidance:

“Living with children
Not all these measures will be possible if you are living with children but keep following this guidance to the best of your ability.

Children with COVID-19 appear to be less severely affected. It is nevertheless important to do your best to ensure that all members of your household follow this guidance.

For those with learning disabilities, autism or serious mental illness
Not all these measures will be possible if you, or those you are living with, have significant conditions such as learning disabilities, autism or serious mental illness. Please keep following this guidance to the best of your ability, whilst keeping yourself and those close to you safe and well, ideally in line with any existing care plans.“

It’s from here on gov.uk:

Guidance
Stay at home: guidance for households with possible or confirmed coronavirus (COVID-19) infection
Updated 10 September 2020

We can’t do the impossible. For example, we can’t teleport a non isolating child into primary school while staying home with one who’s bubble has burst. I think a judge would laugh this out of court.

Yes, I agree Walkaround, staff have been told to keep their distance from each other and many are very anxious to do but I think some are determined to believe it's nonsense designed to make their lives difficult and actually the children are the bigger risk.

All schools and individuals will be different though. We have one member of staff who has "an iron consitution" and is determined nothing will get her, but it makes it quite difficult for others to keep their distance, while we have others who are.noucably nervous to be in a room with another....and lots saying what's the point when we've got 30 kids with no SD.

It's one thing having and communicating a RA and another making it happen and of course it's a huge learning curve for all concerned. We had a fire alarm last week. Had anyone thought about getting a whole school back into the building? It took hours

But if schools are still having f2f staff meetings, their RA isn't covering distancing between staff, even if staff have been told to do it .

That’s interesting because that’s not what the communication from our school advised 🤦‍♀️

Finny you are making as much of a generalisation as you accuse me of. I'm sorry you know of staff who aren't taking it seriously. Slt should be repeating the message.

Our staff are taking it seriously, despite absolutely feeling thrown to the wolves as walkatound says (particularly pupils too - I feel I should be wearing a clear mask or visor to protect them from me but we aren't as we are primary.)

I have pupils who surprise me with a friendly roar in my face as a greeting.

I've had to discourage a huge amount of non necessary hugs. (As there are some in extreme circumstances that would be necessary in order to calm a situation where a pupil is at risk of harming themselves or others, last resort.)

@NeurotrashWarrior my dsis works in a school and was hugged by a child the other day. The child thought the virus was gone aa they are back in school.

In our schools, (Scotland) p1-3 have no sd, no set seats so everyone in the room could possibly be exposed. From p4 up children are encouraged to have a set seat but no sd and they play with/eat with different people.

No distancing at all in any of our primary classes in our part of scotland.

They might be completely well for the full 14 days, but during that time, they can't take any walks. No bike rides. No drives in the car. If they haven't got a garden, they cannot go outside at all.

Yes but I would still take mine out. We live in a bedsit, am not keeping her inside for 14 days.

my dsis works in a school and was hugged by a child the other day. The child thought the virus was gone aa they are back in school.

Poor messaging by the school there. Our schools did a presentation to each class when they returned, outlining what they could and couldn’t do.

Our schools did a presentation to each class when they returned, outlining what they could and couldn’t do.

A 5 year old may forget in the moment !!

Some of these replies are so nasty. Who pissed on everyone's chips??!! This isn't AIBU.

A 5 year old may forget in the moment !!

Then a reminder is needed.

I’m sure going fir a bike ride /walk is not going to kill anyone

Parents off to care for the isolated children is going to be really hard.

I would never be able to set foot out of the house ever again as I have chronic catarrh which causes me to cough quite a lot.

[quote Kungfupanda67]@Sirzy they haven’t said persistent though, they’ve said continuous. Continuous can either mean (according to nhs/gov website) coughing for an hour, or 3 coughing ‘episodes’ in a day. This episode is what’s going to trip people up - I’ve coughed more than 3 times today, I’ve just had a cold which always makes me cough when the Cole’s gone (and also gives me an ear infection, pretty much every cold I ever have).

Lots of kids are the same, my eldest coughs every year when the central heating turns on, and my youngest has a history of nighttime coughing in winter put down to seasonal asthma - in a few weeks they will have ‘new’ (new to this year) coughs. Are they continuous? I doubt it, but my interpretation of continuous may not be the same as yours.[/quote]
and we all know that more than half covid patients never cough, right?

conjunctivitis, diarrhoea, fatigue, are symptoms you need to watch out for too and issues with swallowing.

This is what our boy had.

If they need to go out for physio that falls under medical exemption... I have a friend who's child needs the same sort of thing at the moment and their doctor told them to continue with the physio, use a mask, stay distanced. But by no means stop the physio if they need it as part of healing. Check with your gp on that!

All the sarcastic people on here. Wow.
It's pretty evident from the great British public's behaviour, regarding any of the rules, that they don't know or don't care.
There will be people replying on this thread - some of the sarky ones, too - who will excuse their behaviour with, 'Oh, it was just a quick walk, we weren't near anyone' etc

I was of the understanding that even when you’re isolating you are still allowed a daily walk as part of your exercise regime.

I think parents are realising that the bubbles and children don’t get symptoms is just govt spin and that the bubbles were burst the minute kids arrived in them. Social distancing in schools impossible. Yes children are sat in rows with usually 29 other children in small poorly ventilated classrooms, coughing and spluttering over each other with the usual back to school old . Spending at least 2 hours a day in a queue to wash hands at the one sink allocated to that bubble. Very limited support for children from either peers in usual group learning which can’t happen or teachers as not allowed masks to get close to child because that could mean teachers have to isolate which govt told not allowed to happen.... what schools are actually like, dispute schools doing everything been told to to lower risks with no funding for the individual stationary packs for each child, extra cleaning. Schools are already on their knees. I believe this is not going to end well!!

So what about children who catch a bus too school, no face masks required on a school bus. Around 50 children on that bus then they say they are safe in school as they are in a bubble! Doesn't really make sense to me. Not to mention the driver would of also picked up other schools etc. It really hasn't been thought out properly!

@Shellycakes

Yes we’ve all realised this; it’s said daily

My daughter and her 100+ schoolmates from her year are isolating right now because one kid in their year has tested positive. It makes perfect sense if the school provides sound online learning - the entire year will be taught remotely for the next two weeks. If you just isolate the affected kid and their closest contacts, they miss out on the lessons - because you can't expect teachers to provide on site learning for some kids and online lessons for others for the foreseeable future, on top of everything else they are having to put up with these days.

@JonSnowIsALoser

My daughter and her 100+ schoolmates from her year are isolating right now because one kid in their year has tested positive. It makes perfect sense if the school provides sound online learning - the entire year will be taught remotely for the next two weeks. If you just isolate the affected kid and their closest contacts, they miss out on the lessons - because you can't expect teachers to provide on site learning for some kids and online lessons for others for the foreseeable future, on top of everything else they are having to put up with these days.

It is better if they have the online resources. I assume it’s secondary and everyone is ok to not have KW etc provision?