“Covid marshals to be introduced”

[Funkypolar]

To enforce social distancing.

No doubt they will find many volunteers on Mumsnet!

But there is something about this, something about the way the majority of countries have reacted, countries that usually have opposing views or are rivals all doing similar things. It makes me think the virus is more of a risk than they are letting on.

Why would you think there needs to be more of a risk than you’ve been clearly told about? It’s highly contagious, spreads via people without symptoms and causes serious illness and death in a high enough % of people to add up to a very big number indeed in a population > 60m. That’s enough surely? As Chris Whitty said on today’s briefing, yes these measures are damaging but the consequences of not take them would be worse. There is no secret.

Actually if this is an outsourcing opportunity then I am confident that my company can provide a professional and rigourous service and I will absolutely not utilise AIBU for the trickier scenarios

I don’t really get the whole Global Reset thing, it talks about nanotechnology and it all sounds a bit weird! I’ve read about a “currency reset” too.

I don't think that's too much to ask, under the circumstances, even for people with PTSD due to rape/DV or a facial nerve condition. Or if they're not prepared to do that, I want them to be prepared to put up with the people bitching at them and, inevitably, these covid marshals hassling them

@Nestme so you 'want' survivors of rape/DV to be prepared to put up with abuse and hassle from marshals unless they share their trauma with someone in authority in order to get a lanyard? Do you understand how PTSD works? I've read some seriously nasty, unfeeling shit on here since the pandemic began but this may well take the biscuit.

How is somebody who has never divulged their trauma supposed to prove they were raped? And prove it they'd have to, under your scheme, because otherwise any old 'faker' could get a lanyard.

[quote Nestme]@pennydreadful

I want anyone who feels strongly enough about not wearing a mask, for any reason, to make an effort to have some sort of distinguishing visible feature such as a card or a lanyard to show that they have gone to some effort to indicate that they aren't just attention seeking - and I want a system in place to facilitate that. I don't think that's too much to ask, under the circumstances, even for people with PTSD due to rape/DV or a facial nerve condition. Or if they're not prepared to do that, I want them to be prepared to put up with the people bitching at them and, inevitably, these covid marshals hassling them. I also want them to try different types of mask and visors before they declare they can't do it. It's a pandemic, etc etc, the government are asking us all to make sacrifices and I don't see why anyone should be exempt unless they genuinely have no choice. It's not singling them out, they are already singled out in public by being non facemask wearers in a see of people wearing them. If we're going to be policing people for having 6 or 7 people in their home then I don't see why facemask-wearing shouldn't also be more strictly controlled.[/quote]
Fucking unbelievable. You don't think it's too much to ask people with PTSD due to rape/DV or with a facial nerve condition to go to 'some effort'? Jesus, some people have no idea.

Whatever happened to 'be kind'? It seems as though it's been forgotten now.

Considering how keen some people are for the vulnerable to be locked away, how about those who can't wear masks be locked away instead? I'm pretty sure most will suddenly find that they can wear one after all

You're one of those people who tut and judge the maskless in public, aren't you.

Nestme - well luckily you aren’t the government or in any position of power and “I want doesn’t get.”

@PennyDreadfuI

Considering how keen some people are for the vulnerable to be locked away, how about those who can't wear masks be locked away instead? I'm pretty sure most will suddenly find that they can wear one after all

You're one of those people who tut and judge the maskless in public, aren't you.

Yeah

The type of person my brother is worried about running into

Actually thats a lie...he doesn’t give a shiny shit

His wife would be furious though as would I

Maybe having appointed ones might shut the people up who seem to think its their god given right to screech at strangers about distancing. Generally after barging right up to them, thus making them NOT have the required distance but because its YOU breaking the fucking rules, just to whinge on.

Have seen way too much of that. Seems common here. Had it happen to me last week. Some fucker just walked right up to me from maybe 10m away, stood right infront of me and literally shouted 'you are not 2m away from me!!!!!' while deathstaring. Fuck the fuck off. What on earth is their problem..people like that. Seem to be bloody loving this sand just enjoy being awkward fuckers. So maybe those twats will pack it in if there is appointed marshals..doubt it though somehow.

nestme tough shit mate.
You ain’t getting what you want.

Well lets see what the covid marshals do with it shall we?

The bbc website said Covid marshals are quote
Covid-secure marshals" will be introduced to help ensure social distancing in town and city centres
So I don't think they will be lurking in the shadows jumping out to find people.
I hope anyway but I can see your concerns .
The whole mask thing my son is disabled so is exempt I don't carry any exempt card as it's not law to do so nor is it required also it's very obvious when you see him .
But I have had it questioned by 1 person no issue with that but then told to carry a exempt card for him .
The thing is he was with his family who were all wearing masks so I kind of thought it was obvious there was a good reason he wasn't but that's the rules as so many like to preach .
It's a shame the disabled are treated like this so badly .

How depressing

@Nestme

Well lets see what the covid marshals do with it shall we?

I’ll put whatever money you want on it that they will be powerless when it comes to individual mask wearing

Groups not wearing masks then maybe...

When i say whatever money i mean a fiver 😀

(I don’t trust this government)

@PennyDreadfuI

Considering how keen some people are for the vulnerable to be locked away, how about those who can't wear masks be locked away instead? I'm pretty sure most will suddenly find that they can wear one after all

You're one of those people who tut and judge the maskless in public, aren't you.

Tbh ive not seen huge numbers of women not following the rule unless they are in groups or with a partner.

The 'chinstrap couples' are a particular favorite of mine. Along with the 'hard geezer' types who try and look as hard as possible with stupidly puffed out chests when they enter the supermarket. And the 'pushchair mafia' who talk loudly about how it 'doesn't matter anymore' now the kids are back in school.

Theres definitely a psychology to this and the problematic offenders and repeat offenders arent the ones that covid marshals are going to have most success with. It will be more vulnerable individuals who are targeted and dealt with primarily.

Its not so much about tutting and seeing enforcement as a solution but properly understanding why the trendy lad in his early twenties wont be caught dead in a face mask cos it'll ruin his 'too kool i dont care about authority' image.

I think in lots of cases an ad campaign with the right celebrities fronting it would prove just as effective as covid marshals.

I'm tired of people talking about their "rights" with out paying equal regards to their responsibilities.
It's not just COVID that brings this out on.people its everything from cycling, driving, music, litter etc. Calling people to account isn't a police state. Anyway if the british government is acting contrary to your rights you can always appeal to the european court... oh wait the Brexiteers flushed that down the loo, but they know their rights!

The marshals ain’t daft.
They won’t be tackling gangs of lads in Doncaster in spoons.
Or travellers having a wedding.

They’ll be hassling disabled kids who can’t wear masks or students who have their girlfriend staying over.

Correct me if im wrong but CSCS cards relate to security and crowd control certification don't they?

Could be my memory playing up, but i think i remember friends working for ShowSec getting one.

@HelloMissus agreed

Eng the most fundamental right is to governed by the rule of law.
And that doesn’t include the government outsourcing proper policing to Goody Jacob.

The marshalls are likely to be a bunch of students who can't distance themselves.
It's a joke, lol. Give them a high vis jacket. Bet it's the top uni's get the jobs too.

It's funny how people keep laughing at the nazi comparisons, but want people who are exempt to wear identifing lanyards labels ect, no paraells at all

CSCS cards are for working in construction, SIA is security.