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Government announcement at 10.30 tonight

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Jenasaurus · 08/09/2020 21:51

Im listening to LBC radio and they have just said there will be a live government announcement on LBC at 10.30 tonight that will affect households. I am confused why would this be on LBC at that time, if they know the announcement they are going to make, why not make it earlier?

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notevenat20 · 09/09/2020 05:31

Is this correct?

A household group of 6 can meet up with another household making the group (7+) but a household of 5 can only meet up with one other person (6)?

No that sounds wrong. The limit is 6 so if two households come to more than 6 that is now illegal.

Racoonworld · 09/09/2020 05:53

@Tartan333

Is this correct?

A household group of 6 can meet up with another household making the group (7+) but a household of 5 can only meet up with one other person (6) ?

If this is the case then a couple with 3dcs can't meet up with both grandparents at the same time but a couple with 4dcs can? Or am I totally confused?!

No not correct. No gatherings of over 6. Large households exempt because they can’t ban a household of 7 going out together.
RoseAndRose · 09/09/2020 06:03

"A household group of 6 can meet up with another household making the group (7+)"

Only if that meeting is with the person who is bubbled with them it doesn't seem meant to take away pre-existing bubbles. Can you bubble two households these days, or is it still one household plus one singleton?

Whiche

Racoonworld · 09/09/2020 06:09

@RoseAndRose

"A household group of 6 can meet up with another household making the group (7+)"

Only if that meeting is with the person who is bubbled with them it doesn't seem meant to take away pre-existing bubbles. Can you bubble two households these days, or is it still one household plus one singleton?

Whiche

Still one household plus one singleton. The new law hasn’t changed the bubble definition.
ConiferGate · 09/09/2020 06:15

Are kids included in the 6 or only adults?

Racoonworld · 09/09/2020 06:17

@ConiferGate

Are kids included in the 6 or only adults?
The bbc article says people of any age so kids would be included in the 6. More guidance is being produced tomorrow so may clarify further.
mellongoose · 09/09/2020 06:18

Sorry I haven't RTFT but this announcement is to put a stop to multiple parties during freshers week. They have seen a spike in younger people with students arriving back to their accommodation and freshers starting.

Spikes are occurring in areas with a traditionally low infection rate and universities, among students.

This is why schools are still ok and not sure about work places, but I suspect by and large, employers are better at enforcing social distancing and good hygiene.

Peaseblossom22 · 09/09/2020 06:26

But freshers haven’t started going back yet. My ds doesn’t go for another 3 weeks and none of his friends have gone yet . I agree it will affect them because I think the blaming of young people is leading to the Government insisting its 100% online and absolving themselves by saying that it’s all the students fault . When in fact they could have given universities extra money for onsite testing etc and they could have kept numbers manageable rather than causing chaos with the results debacle.

AnonymouseInHiding · 09/09/2020 06:39

I do not understand this. I work in a restaurant. We have the usual social distancing measures, masks and hand sanitiser etc. We are doing everything we can and fully complying with all rules etc. We also have a lot of tables (think mass catering), which can seat 4 people each (spaced appropriately for social distancing).. so, it is safe to work in that environment, and for the customers to be in that environment, but not safe for more than 6 people to gather together? I don't buy it, sorry.

RuffleCrow · 09/09/2020 06:42

How does this fit with school bubbles of 200?

cherrybakewellll · 09/09/2020 06:45

So I have 3 children. Which means I can't now go to my parents with my husband.
However exH has another child, so he can take the DC to his parents because that's over 6 from one unit?

I'm a Tory but I've lost all patience now.

MarshaBradyo · 09/09/2020 06:47

Many saying they thought it was six, me too

Can anyone remember what it actually was beforehand?

Peaseblossom22 · 09/09/2020 06:47

It doesn’t apply to education and work. So what’s its saying is that some things are essential and we have to try to carry on with those things. Socialising with more than 6 people is fundamentally not essential and therefore that should stop. There is obviously a risk in both but one is a risk judged worth taking and one is not .

Peaseblossom22 · 09/09/2020 06:48

It was 6 or two households., so two families of four could meet . Now they can’t . Also before it was guidance now it’s the law

MarshaBradyo · 09/09/2020 06:50

Thanks Pease
So if 4 friends want to meet up, from different households, can they?

AllPowerfulLizardPerson · 09/09/2020 06:52

@RuffleCrow

How does this fit with school bubbles of 200?
It doesn't and it's not meant to.

Work and school are subject to different regulations than social gatherings.

Just because situation A has certain rules, it doesn't follow that those rules must be applicable to situation B

If you want to keep schools, workplaces and non-essential businesses open, then it's time to realise that the level,of new transmission caused by those activities might stay below the tipping point (assuming people are at the right distance - 2m unless mitigated - hand hygiene is good and people isolate properly). If you start adding yet more contact, it'll tip that bit quicker. Is that what anyone wants?

avenueq · 09/09/2020 06:54

Do we think this means a student shared house of more than six housemates can't have any visitors- or can it as long as they don't congregate in one room?

AlfieandAnnieRose · 09/09/2020 06:55

@MarshaBradyo no only two households can meet up so four wouldn’t be allowed

Benjispruce2 · 09/09/2020 06:56

@MarshaBradyo no.4+4=8.

MarshaBradyo · 09/09/2020 06:57

Ben why 8? It’s just 4 friends meeting up but they are from different households

CuriousaboutSamphire · 09/09/2020 06:58

@JellyBabiesSaveLives

Oh good grief. 10:30 at night? Are they hoping we’ve all gone to bed and won’t hear it, or something?
It's so it an be in all the breakfast media! And it is...
ineedaholidaynow · 09/09/2020 06:58

I think the 2 household rule for indoors has gone, replaced by 6 people limit

SarahMused · 09/09/2020 06:58

MarshaBradyo you are mixing up law and guidance. The only law applying to gatherings at the moment is that there should be no more than 30 people unless certain conditions are met. The guidance is the 6 people only and is not enforceable in law. They are changing the law to reflect what the guidance says and will be publishing a list of exceptions today. It doesn’t come into force until Monday either, presumably so the gov can see how much of an uproar this causes among their supporters and make a u-turn if they feel the need. I guess there may be exceptions for support bubbles or large households and for organised activities, where social distancing can occur especially outdoors, but we shall see. Nothing surprises me any longer but if they say they are following the science this time I shall scream! How can they say that 7 people meeting outside is more likely to transmit covid than 6 inside? They have lost it completely.

MarshaBradyo · 09/09/2020 06:59

I cannot see if the two household rule still applies basically, Alfie is a yes

Benjispruce2 · 09/09/2020 06:59

Sorry @MarshaBradyo didn’t read properly. My DD just back at uni house of 5. What a miserable student life after being home for 6months. Still charging £9k though!

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