Do people actually realise how few are dying from coronavirus now?

[Mrschickpeabody]

It’s all still doom and gloom on the news as normal regarding coronavirus. Loads about cases going up, local lockdowns, negativity regarding schools going back but nothing about the fact that hardly anyone is actually dying from coronavirus or being admitted to hospital. Can we not hear about positive things for once?

Prof Sir John Bell also talks about the need for repeated vaccinations here:

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-here-forever-sir-john-bell-immunologist-a9630556.html%3famp

@XingMing how precisely can a type one diabetic or someone with COPD heal themselves?

. And if you have health issues, or are obese/diabetic/COPD or any other condition that makes you vulnerable to the virus or its after-effects, then now would be a good time to take steps to remediate your own health.

Sorry missed quote

@XingMing I can’t wait for my type 1 diabetes to be cured. I’ll eat an apple instead of some crisps with my lunch and it will save me from the coronavirus...

For people like myself who are at higher risk through no fault of my own, it is case numbers that matter most to me, rather than deaths. If there’s 1000 cases I have a much greater chance of coming into contact with it than if there is 10 cases, even if all 10 of the 10 die and all 1000 of the 1000 survive.

Already the deaths by other illnesses is higher than previous years

Att some of those deaths will have been COVID when there was no testing in care homes.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53280011

[quote lampygirl]@XingMing I can’t wait for my type 1 diabetes to be cured. I’ll eat an apple instead of some crisps with my lunch and it will save me from the coronavirus...

For people like myself who are at higher risk through no fault of my own, it is case numbers that matter most to me, rather than deaths. If there’s 1000 cases I have a much greater chance of coming into contact with it than if there is 10 cases, even if all 10 of the 10 die and all 1000 of the 1000 survive.[/quote]
I asked that poster about that having got DH with T1 - pancreas transplais the answer apparently.

Assumably their solution to COPD is therefore a lung transplant.

Type 1 Diabetics healing themselves?

Interesting article about the vaccine, so many unanswered questions, don’t pin all your hope on a vaccine seems sensible advice to me.

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/06/political-leaders-are-raising-false-hopes-about-coronavirus-vaccines

Another interesting article

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/06/why-is-it-that-while-covid-19-cases-are-rising-deaths-continue-to-fall

I thought I made it clear up the thread that Type 1 diabetes does NOT get cured by losing weight. Only Type 2 diabetes can diet and manage diet to row back. But Type 1 tends to present in childhood; type 2 is a condition of middle age and obesity.

“Superb article”. Not going to age well.

I'm not aware of anyone pinning all their hopes on a vaccine. But it's looking very positive and things would be so different if that weren't the case

This article from Jeremy Farrar today about the vaccine hopes is interesting www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/06/lets-get-real-no-vaccine-will-work-as-if-by-magic-returning-us-to-normal

Oh sorry, I managed to miss that someone had posted it already

It sounds a lot like the current Flu vaccine in terms of effectiveness and how often it is given

We could have some initial vaccine efficacy data very soon (in the next few weeks).
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-03/frontrunning-covid-vaccines-will-soon-see-their-moment-of-truth?

@mac12

“Superb article”. Not going to age well.

I think you’re wrong

But hey ho..,

What’s the appropriate thing to do when you’re in a coffee shop/restaurant where masks are not required, where an adult is coughing heavily but not covering their mouth, within a metre of you?
A. Say nothing and accept you’re being coughed on repeatedly.
B. Look over (with a not so friendly look) at the each in hope they take more caution?
C. Asked to be moved to another table?
D. Confront the person and calmly ask them to take care that they are making you uncomfortable?

E. Get the hell away from them

@bubblesforlife

I'd probably leave the table tbh and go and ask to be reseated or cut my losses!

@DameFanny

E. Get the hell away from them

Is the correct answer. No point staying put in that kind of position and risking catching it.

Leave or not go to a busy restaurant at all. Every restaurant I have been to there hasn’t been anyone near us by about 4 metres.

I’d leave but I reckon the restaurant would be better off asking them nicely to leave. I doubt they’d want the staff to get it.

Irritating comment from Hancock tonight, responding to increased cases:

“The cases are predominantly among younger people but we have seen in other countries across the world and in Europe this sort of rise in the cases among younger people lead to a rise across the population as a whole, so it so important that people don’t allow this illness to infect their grandparents and to lead to the sort of problems that we saw earlier in the year.”

I wonder if there's any way the government could help with this, perhaps with effective testing, tracing, social distancing in schools, messaging etc??