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Risk to children ‘vanishingly small’

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TeddyIsaHe · 28/08/2020 06:15

Great article in the Guardian that I hope will put some people’s minds at ease a little before the return to school.

The largest study of children and young people that has been conducted since the beginning of the covid crisis.

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/28/vanishingly-small-risk-of-death-or-severe-illness-for-children-from-covid

BMJ study: www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3249

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Jenasaurus · 28/08/2020 18:08

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coronavirus-in-scotland-thousands-of-tests-find-just-50-cases-after-opening-of-schools-8q98bn7gw

This is also reassuring, only 50 cases on schools in Scotland, which is relatively low

Alex50 · 28/08/2020 18:35

@Jenasaurus that is good news. I’m so glad it doesn’t effect children the same as adults, that is one big positive out of this.

AuntieStella · 28/08/2020 18:54

I honestly cannot believe that some people have read this post from @Bupkis (along with others) and yet still gone on to complain about negative people with "no joy in their lives" trying to drag everyone else down. If this is the level of empathy that parents are passing on to their dc I honestly despair for the next generation. The narrow-minded "I'm alright Jack" attitudes demonstrated by some posters on here is shocking

This with bells on

phatsandsmall · 28/08/2020 19:35

@AuntieStella

I honestly cannot believe that some people have read this post from @Bupkis (along with others) and yet still gone on to complain about negative people with "no joy in their lives" trying to drag everyone else down. If this is the level of empathy that parents are passing on to their dc I honestly despair for the next generation. The narrow-minded "I'm alright Jack" attitudes demonstrated by some posters on here is shocking

This with bells on

And some of them teachers too 😳 scary thought
Jrobhatch29 · 28/08/2020 19:39

"And some of them teachers too 😳 SCARY though"

You are a delight. Your repeated attacks at me on this thread say more about me. Yes I an awful teacher for being pleased that the vast majority of the children in my school will be fine. And as I have said numerous times in this thread I do have sympathy for teachers and vulnerable children. Kindly back off!

Jrobhatch29 · 28/08/2020 19:40

Say more about you*

CokeEnStock · 28/08/2020 19:54

My workplace, about 1500 people, we are expected back on 1st October, on a 3 shift system, plus working from home days, so I am expected to go back for about 5 or 6 days in the office in October, wearing a mask. School though. full time next week, also wearing a mask. 1200 children in a very over packed building. My boss tells me I don't have to come to office until I am comfortable. It's not the office that worries me.

Alex50 · 28/08/2020 20:11

@Jrobhatch29 I completely agree that was just nasty, again to take away from the article. Luckily I only find this attitude on mumsnet, don’t let it get to you Flowers

herecomesthsun · 28/08/2020 21:38

[quote BelleSausage]@BikeTyson

Why so angry? You seem determined to ignore the risks to staff. Just because children are safe does not mean that staff are.

Are you willing to accept that some staff will be hospitalised and become severely ill and possibly die because they were sent back to school with minimal protections?

Secondary school students spread the virus just as effectively as adults. That is what the studies say. The healthy ones might not get very sick. But their teachers will. Cherry picking points about younger kids does not help your argument.

Idk how anyone could ignore the human cost unless you see staff as not human and worth throwing under a bus to save the government time and money.

You haven’t been blinded by science. You’ve been present with the science that fits the conclusions you want to draw.

Children are probably safe, adults are not. Since schools contain both they need to be secure enough for both.

They are not secure for adults and staff will become sick. That is what will close schools.

The critical thinking ability of many people is so terrible that they cannot see this terrible flaw in the plan. It only take ten staff off sick to close our school. We teeter on the edge every winter. What do you think is going to happen this winter?

That’s right! Schools will start to close and education will be intermittent. How could this be prevented? By using social distancing to protect staff.

But it costs money. So it won’t happen.

Schools will be closed again by November. What a shit plan.[/quote]
From our (very long) school newsletter

"Needless to say, our teaching colleagues will be flexible. When there are staff absences, we will redeploy ...

We will be prioritising [exam years], which may mean that colleagues may be asked to switch teaching groups if other colleagues are away. Should staff absence rates rise significantly, we may send home particular year groups – the[ir] provision ... will then be [online]"

Having digested the information a bit, they are basically saying they are expecting an awful lot of their staff to be falling sick. They aren't making a fuss about it, they are planning for it, and they will be manning stations a bit like soldiers in a war.

I feel desperately sorry for these great teachers. It really isn't right that they are having to plug on with minimal safety provisions and such bad support and planning from this hopeless government.

QueenBlueberries · 28/08/2020 21:45

their staff falling sick, or having to look after a sick child, or having to self isolate because they might have been exposed to the virus in the classroom or anywhere else. They might be ill themselves, or ill yet, or ill at all.

itsgettingweird · 28/08/2020 23:00

Well the government have - in their usual manner - publishes new guidance this evening.

They have, in this guidance, accented and mentioned that secondary school children are a risk to staff due to their activities outside of school and mixing.

So everyone saying it's safe and ignoring the obvious. Now government have issued a 4 point plan B due to risks in high case areas and risk of transmission.

They are now saying staff aren't safe from children!

Bupkis · 28/08/2020 23:27

Id say that its Unfuckingbelievable that they have released guidance on a Friday night the bank holiday before school starts, but it's par for the course really....did they release it via an article in the Telegraph or a leaflet drop by the local kebab shop?

It's typical of course that, even if his sister's are off (being secondary), ds would be expected in (having an EHCP...so vulnerable) as the shielding lists have all been reviewed.

Honestly, I will be 100% grey and a nervous wreck by the end of this.

MJMG2015 · 28/08/2020 23:58

@itsgettingweird

Well the government have - in their usual manner - publishes new guidance this evening.

They have, in this guidance, accented and mentioned that secondary school children are a risk to staff due to their activities outside of school and mixing.

So everyone saying it's safe and ignoring the obvious. Now government have issued a 4 point plan B due to risks in high case areas and risk of transmission.

They are now saying staff aren't safe from children!

& of course it's their 'activities out of school' making them a risk to teaching staff. Nothing to do with being in small rooms with 30+ other people for hours at a time!

My nieces college have changed their tutorials/lessons/periods/classes (whatever the current name for them is) from 45 minutes to 3 hours to reduce movement around the college 🙇🏻‍♀️🙇🏻‍♀️🙇🏻‍♀️ THREE HOURS in one non ventilated room, that's going to be marvellous & the bathrooms are going to be a real joy when they do get a break.

Did they have any new 'recommendations'?!

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