Anyone else just worn down by illogic?

[CountessFrog]

Examples of completely illogical ‘roolz’ everywhere - they give me ‘rule fatigue.’ I may even have reached ‘Peak Roolz.’

For example. On holiday last week I entered a shop that apparently had a one way system. It was a small shop, and because everyone was directed left on arrival, they had crowded into a narrow area in the left, thus ensuring no social distancing.

I didn’t know about the one way system, so I noticed the crowd on the left and headed to the right of the shop to browse and stay away from people. The shop assistant shouted that I wasn’t following the one way system And I needed to join the crowd in the left (I left after that).

Second example. In same small seaside town, We were there for two weeks. On our last night we went to a chippy on the seafront that we’d used three times already. They only accepted cards. They made you queue outside, allowing one customer in at a time. Fair enough.

However On this occasion they were now ‘cash only.’ I had no cash, so I asked to place my order and go to the cash point or find DH who I knew to have cash.

They refused this. When I returned with the cash, the shop was empty so I went in. But silly me, I was still breaking ‘the roolz’ Because they had another (less obvious rule) that you couldn’t go in if they were busy doing something. So she was busy battering fish, and this meant I wasn’t allowed in. Because any fule know that’s a dangerous situation.

Ice cream shop where you had to wait outside and stand behind a line when they let you in. Couldn’t see the ice cream flavours from behind the line. Was allowed to ‘step forward two paces.’ Second time I visited, whole family in the shop, primary aged children literally licking the glass counter. No objections raised

I’m totally over the roolz. Anyone else?

[quote Derbygerbil]@Pixel7777

In the 1960s there was an Asian flu pandemic, similar stats to this one looking at the latest info from Spain in terms of mortality etc

I know this isn’t the point of the thread, but doesn’t that just demonstrate the Covid is more deadly, as it has killed as many people despite the lockdowns, social distancing, shielding etc., and presumably would have doubtless killed many, many more of we’d done nothing (though not including the measures outlined on this thread which largely seem pointless).[/quote]
So has flu. More people died of flu than covid, last month, IIRC.

It’s all such guff. My office is still wfh but a couple of colleagues have been in to collect things. There are posters up saying only one person allowed in the toilets at the time. There are eight stalls in the toilets. So seven will be empty every time one person needs the loo.

I feel that I reached peak ridiculousness when I was standing outside a big Wetherspoons near me will my DS, sheltering from the heavy rain (Glasgow) under the awning while folk smoked around us. The place was packed, every single table occupied with folk drinking at midday, but I still can’t take DS to the glasshouse at the park to hide from the rain? Which is full of...plants?

DP had to do online training on how to enter his (totally deserted) office to collect a new chair.

Oh and my friend was on the Eurostar and was told there was no WiFi due to the pandemic. Ok then.

@SpliffingOramorphedOut I’m so sorry you have to put up with this. People with different health needs have been totally disregarded during this period and it’s shameful. A functioning, civil society does not just drop support structures for vulnerable people overnight and that’s what’s happened.

Loving this thread!! Just back from the newly reopened library which is situated in the Council building. One way system to enter the library takes one all the way round the inside of the building passing numerous people waiting to deal with benefits etc etc. Name and telephone number taken at entrance, only 30 minutes allowed inside, any book touched but not taken out to be placed in a cage to be quarantined for 72 hours, follow one way system at all times, assistants jumping back if you inadvertently get too close for a second. I was the only person in there!!! Absolute glorious madness has overtaken the world.

No WIFI due to Covid?

That one wins surely

@AnnieP1 Not sure about the logic of quarantine for any book that has been touched by human hand when you can touch what you like in a supermarket or clothes store or any other shop for that matter. Are library books particularly dangerous vectors of this virus?

I could have written this post myself.
Sick of the OTT rules imposed by shopkeepers (not virologists) whoare just on a massive power trip.
Stopped shopping in Tesco when I saw a lady being bollocked by staff for not being stood in the correct spot at the checkouts.
Live in a town where the council tried to enfoce a one way system up one street in town but not the main part of town and people just got sick of it.
Im tired of the rules.
Just keep washing your hands and keep your distance and all will be ok.

@AnnieP1 that sounds crazy but my local library has taken it to another level - u aren't even allowed inside! You have to choose books online, then book an appt to collect the books from the main entrance. At no time are u allowed to enter the building! Not even to return a book, they have to be put in a box outside so they can be 'quarantined'. Bloody stupid!

I miss having a wander around my library so much and the baby rhyme time that I attended there before all this started really does feel like a lifetime ago now!

I live in London I know borough but very close to the next borough. The one I’m in has kept everything shut so far - leisure centres, libraries etc whilst the neighbouring one has these things open so of course we all have to go to the facilities further away (more public transport etc).
One leisure centre I went to was relatively normal apart from pre-booking but the one way system meant you had to exit the building via the swimming pool fire exit and I got all confused about whether the exit and one way signs superseded the signs about no shoes beyond this point.

In the local high street / village we have a one way system theoretically in place although absolutely no one follows it.

The BBC is just as bad. Apparently we should be checking the filters etc and going back out if air is stale

www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-53917432

they do this from time to time, here is another joy

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52848793

Yeah I know @NotAKaren I can touch and leaf through as many books as I want in Waterstones but I may not go to my local library other than 2-4 every other Thursday to pick up a book that I have pre-ordered and that has been wrapped in white paper (just to make everything look even more clinical and hospital like). God knows what happens to the books I return, some kind of exorcism no doubt.

It pisses me off because I truly believe this will kill of libraries.

We had an email from the primary school saying they were sending books home

"They have been quarantined for over three days and the child was the last person to touch them"

@AgentCooper well the eurostar has had non functioning WiFi for the last four years, now they've come up with a novel excuse! 😂

@Nanalisa60 yep you nailed it. I just drove to the post office, retrieved a tattered mask from the glove box, shoved it on, and put it right back there for next time. Like f* am I paying a load of money for some pointless bit of tissue.

I love in France. Fortunately the roolz don't seem to be too bad in my experience here.

When the equivalent to primary school went back in a limited way in May, we had staggered entry and exit times at my village school. Of course, the parents of siblings were stood at the gate talking waiting between the staggered times....

Fortunately common sense prevailed and for the last two weeks of the summer term in June they abandoned the staggered times!

Ikea here has alternate toilet cubicles and sinks taped off, but everyone is stood non SD in the queue at the restaurant and tills... (The short cuts were still open!)

We have nothing like that in our city Co-op but it was like it in Dorset.

It seems to vary a lot with them. Anyone can go in ours but the Dorset one was one in one out. Ours has not been like that since the masks came in.

Today I couldn't visit my father in his care home for his birthday. He has dementia. They wheeled him to a window which was open a crack and I sat outside. He could barely see me and couldn't hear me. I had to wear a plastic apron over my coat, even though I wasnt going inside. He was distressed by all of it but these are the rools. I had cards and gifts for him. The nurse came to the door, took them from me hand to hand, and then gave them straight to dad! WTF is the point of depriving a fragile elderly person of any human contact because " we have a pandemic, Bill" as the nurse said, but letting him touch things that had just come from the outside via two pairs of hands!!!

FIL is very ill in hospital he has a AAA (aneurysm) MIL is not allowed to visit him. May be in a few days but not sure if he will be around that long

My elderly father meanwhile in sheltered housing has all lunch clubs stopped and very isolated.

My personal bugbear is being asked to sanitise my hands on entry to a shop. Every shop. I sanitised my hands approx 10 times in less than an hour yesterday.

I will do it though. There's nothing normal at the moment. It's not the end of the world.

@AlecTrevelyan006 Wed 26-Aug-20 23:15:59
life has become joyless and miserable for most people but as long as just one life is saved then it will have been worth it

but only if it's a Covid life saved, deaths from other things don't count, including those from delayed cancer diagnosis and suicide.

@Derbygerbil Thu 27-Aug-20 07:34:06
@Pixel7777

In the 1960s there was an Asian flu pandemic, similar stats to this one looking at the latest info from Spain in terms of mortality etc

I know this isn’t the point of the thread, but doesn’t that just demonstrate the Covid is more deadly, as it has killed as many people despite the lockdowns, social distancing, shielding etc., and presumably would have doubtless killed many, many more of we’d done nothing.

Nope because different lockdowns including Sweden's non lockdown have had statistically very little difference in death rates.

@itsgettingweird Thu 27-Aug-20 09:07:56
I totally get Covid and how it transmits and the risks.

You are the only one that does then because even the experts don't agree

The point of this thread is really just to be in a bad mood about roolz.

Reality I wasn't claiming to be an expert. It was obvious I was just expressing I get it's airborne and on surfaces and can be silent and super spreader etc.

In context my comment made sense.

Not sure why you needed to pull it out and make a negative gibe 🙄

I’ll have to admit something.

My children are both at high school, but their primary school was so badly managed (with roolz that changed all the time) that I’ve gone back and downloaded the app where they post parent information, just to amuse myself.