Boris Johnson admits school face mask advice might change

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www.theguardian.com/education/2020/aug/25/covid-19-boris-johnson-school-face-mask-advice-change?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR1yzapQ3GD6aI3G2l-p0D-GvDuffPovLRSBP7ytZoIZtyDeeLy5bkLqbL4#Echobox=1598365661

Someone on here said this was exactly what would happen a week before they went back.

Even buses aren't bubbles as a lot of school kids and staff use public transport.
Many school transport buses drop/collect from multiple schools all travelling together.

@canigooutyet

Even buses aren't bubbles as a lot of school kids and staff use public transport. Many school transport buses drop/collect from multiple schools all travelling together.

Round here it's different. It's one bus, one school and the same children on it each day. It's obviously a mix of year groups so they all go off into different bubbles when they get to school but the bus is the same children each day. There is no public transport so it's all private transport for the staff.

Boris says they’ve changed based on the experience of Scottish schools going back. It turns out that when it rains, they go inside. Who’d have thought it?

My local secondary is in the middle of a really poor socio economic area. Kids who live in 2/3 bed houses which are families of 6.

Totally off topic, but how is a family of 6 in a 3 bedroom house classed as anything other than usual? That's perfectly normal in my experience
Obviously if parents can't afford to feed them then yes, they are poor, but number of bedrooms alone doesn't mean anything.

Ow wow @tangycalligrapher that's amazing that the staff are also included in transport provisions.
But like many things I have come across in the UK you wonder why they are still run so badly. Other countries run rings round us with some of the provisions we have 🤣

Students in Scotland were lucky to leave the class @halcyondays ours apart from lunchtime everyone remains in the class. Not sure how this will work with gcse sets. Lunchtime the whole year in the same room. The only time they go out is arrival/departure.

I'm not blaming the school its all they can do because of the guidelines. Until the government said no, they were working on ensuring from September they could provide seamless education, and would have worked towards ensuring those that needed to be in would have been. With the donations of working equipment we managed to get from the community, plus those who do have devices, it would have been a workable plan. Well on paper. The school have been excellent at communicating the difficulties they have.

@TheFormerPorpentinaScamander

My local secondary is in the middle of a really poor socio economic area. Kids who live in 2/3 bed houses which are families of 6.

Totally off topic, but how is a family of 6 in a 3 bedroom house classed as anything other than usual? That's perfectly normal in my experience
Obviously if parents can't afford to feed them then yes, they are poor, but number of bedrooms alone doesn't mean anything.

Yeah bad example as I forgot to read back - I meant to put 6-9. So 6 in 2 bed and up to 9 in 3. It's the personal space issue.

I knew as soon as I realised I've misplayed someone would comment

@itsgettingweird oh that makes more sense! I thought it was one of those 'only on Mumsnet' things where making dc share a room is practically abuse

We've got 3 in a 2 up 2 down and at times it's cosy to say the least. Luckily we like each other

I went to a big supermarket in a ‘rough’ part of town yesterday. Less than half the people in there were wearing masks.
There’s a few secondary schools nearby famed for their ‘behaviour’, I imagine they’ve got no chance making the kids in their wear one to be honest.

Could be talking about where I live @Iverunoutofnames only it's not a rough part of town.

Local school is famed for the behaviour management amongst other things. Teens will still ways of non compliance and causing trouble/mischief. No school can control over a 1000 pupils.

Many teens behave differently when in school. Even the "rougher" kids manage to follow rules.

[quote Bercows]Is there any evidence that homemade/or simple face coverings are effective? My college has said we have to wear FFP2/3 masks when in the premises. These are the ones that offer protection to both the wearer and the environment. 20 masks for £30 when I'm on UC is a bit steep but as ecv then needs must.

This article is interesting if anyone is interested in the different types of masks.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7194956/[/quote]
Are they fit testing you all then? Ffp2/3 masks are only effective if they fit properly and they don't work for all. Ditto n95.