WHO expect pandemic to be over in 2 years

[mummabear1967]

www.itv.com/news/2020-08-21/world-health-organization-chief-hopes-coronavirus-pandemic-will-be-over-in-two-years

Even if this pandemic does run into 2022, we won’t be stuck with restrictions until then, right? We will be back to normality to some extent? Not sure I could deal with another two years of this crap.

@lazylinguist

Well I'm glad you're so virtue signallingselfless

Nope. I'm not at all selfless, nor do I have any particular desire to give the impression of virtue. I'm just fairly pragmatic and not over-dramatic. Of course people are disappointed, so are we.

Apparently that's not allowed though? Because you know PEOPLE ARE DYING

More dramatics. Yes, you are absolutely right. People are definitely saying that nobody is allowed to be at all disappointed about missing out on something.

Being disappointed is perfectly understandable. Going on as if it's a tragedy (when other people are experiencing real Covid-induced tragedy) is excessive and insensitive. I don't think that's virtue-signalling, I think it's bloody obvious.

@lazylinguist

More dramatics. Yes, you are absolutely right. People are definitely saying that nobody is allowed to be at all disappointed about missing out on something.

Being disappointed is perfectly understandable. Going on as if it's a tragedy (when other people are experiencing real Covid-induced tragedy) is excessive and insensitive. I don't think that's virtue-signalling, I think it's bloody obvious.

Sorry who's "going on"?

What's a tragedy to one person won't be to another. You never know when something might be the last straw for someone, you know?

People commit suicide over things you wouldn't consider a "tragedy" you know....

If anyone is insensitive, it's you.

Ok. You win. I accept that several generations of (comparatively wealthy and privileged on a global scale) people have had their lives irrevocably ruined by Covid 19 messing up their foreign holiday plans and gig schedules.

@lazylinguist

Ok. You win. I accept that several generations of (comparatively wealthy and privileged on a global scale) people have had their lives irrevocably ruined by Covid 19 messing up their foreign holiday plans and gig schedules.

Yeah you really don't get it do you.

@annabel85

To be honest foreign holidays and festivals are luxuries, not necessities. It's been quite eye opening to see millions of people unable to go just one summer without their holidays abroad, even in the middle of a pandemic.

Food, water and a roof over our heads are the necessities we all need.

Those industries provided the tens of thousands of jobs and generated the revenue that pays for the food, water and roofs over the heads of thousands, the government cannot afford to pay for that for all those who are going to be out of work due to their total collapse due to a virus with a low R rate that doesn't kill over 99% of those who get it or even make the vast majority of them extremely ill.

This will become very quickly apparent once the furlough scheme ends, it will not be extended.

And is already becoming very apparent to many governments across the world.

There's no magic money tree. When governments cannot service their debts you have far, far, far worse things to worry about than covid.

There's also no magic solution to this. The economy is being damaged by covid, not by the control measures.

I've seen a number of economists predict an economic boom once the virus is brought under control, due to pent up demand.

The restrictions that were put in place weren't to protect us or the NHS, they were to stop the shortcomings caused by the government becoming apparent, the chronic underfunding of the NHS, social services, councils, care sectors, schools etc. So that the blame could be passed on to anyone but the real perpetrators, Boris, Dominic Cummings & their cronies. If they had wanted to really protect the people they could have implemented the mask wearing, locked down harder & faster, shut pubs & schools immediately instead of giving notice that closures would be happening, who can remember the pubs heaving more than New Yeas Eve the night before they closed? How many cases were because of this?

To be honest foreign holidays and festivals are luxuries, not necessities.

Not for the people who work in those industries. What's been eye-opening is how expendable their ability to earn a living apparently is.

@BluebellsGreenbells

I cannot and will not accept social distancing for much longer, it has destroyed my life and taken away everything that brings me pleasure. I'm not living like this for two years

My grandmother lived through two world wars so you can enjoy your freedom, she suffered bombings, rations, family deaths, now curable illnesses, no vaccinations, Spanish flu, Etc.

Yet you can’t manage to stay 2 meters from other people? You are the reason this will take longer to go away.

Oh stop it! Stop this horrible hectoring "You are the reason" shite. This kind of bullshit got old very quickly, when people were told that sitting on park benches meant THEY were the problem back in April.

No, the virus is the problem, and the reason. Stop trying to make people think they are responsible for deaths simply because they long for their lives back. They're not

@MaxNormal

To be honest foreign holidays and festivals are luxuries, not necessities.

Not for the people who work in those industries. What's been eye-opening is how expendable their ability to earn a living apparently is.

Exactly! Or even their very lives if their mental health is unable to withstand repossession or eviction, bankruptcy, homelessness, sanctions on UC (they're back, folks!) should that happen, or the knock on effect of their children growing up in poverty - children who grow up in poverty have markedly lower life expectancies. Not to mention the loss of billions of pounds of revenue for many, many governments, who need the revenue to, you know, pay people to run vital services, run infrastructure, service their debts, how long is a piece of string?

I'm amazed at how naive people are when it comes to macroeconomics.

Not for the people who work in those industries. What's been eye-opening is how expendable their ability to earn a living apparently is.

Exactly!!
The industry I work in is based on non essentials/luxuries but while no one needs them, I need a certain amount of people to still want/buy stuff to have a job!
Events covers so many areas - performing, lighting, sound, technical, sets, etc as well as make up artists, costumes, programmes , promotions, printers/designers, catering, tents and marquees, haulage, coach tours... the list goes on.

It's all very similar to the shoulder-shrugging "Well, I don't drink so I don't care if the pubs never reopen" line of thought. As if pubs and the rest of the hospitality industry don't employ millions of people who pay the taxes that make it possible for society to function.

Also, I'm willing to bet that every single one of the people lecturing about how we don't NEED holidays or music festivals or whatever, indulge in plenty of what could definitely be considered 'luxuries' themselves, even if it is organic fairtrade quinoa from Waitrose.

Can't quote myself but yes I'm a huge idiot and quoted the wrong poster. I meant to quote "OhTheKittens" post about how they would like rather see uncontrolled virus rather than social distancing. My apologies to the poster I did quote

No, the virus is the problem, and the reason. Stop trying to make people think they are responsible for deaths simply because they long for their lives back. They're not

Quite. And the virus is also the problem and the reason why we can’t currently have festivals and theatres cramming in punters.

I advise businesses. Including hospitality and events businesses. Many were closing or making redundancies before lockdown and their businesses being forcibly closed. It’s not like we can choose to ignore SD measures and start cramming into concert halls and attending gigs tomorrow and all these people would keep their jobs. People aren’t going to want to go out when there are infections in the hundreds of thousands a day! Businesses aren’t going to want to have their name tarnished by an event where lots of people caught the virus and became ill or worse. Jobs would have been lost and businesses and the economy would have collapses anyway.

And for middle of the night fire alarms. Gets chilly

Whoops wrong thread. Sorry 😂😂

Covid will be here forever, it will just become more manageable over time like the flu

Eventually there will be another virus and this will happen again, hopefully not in my lifetime though

No, the virus is the problem, and the reason

The virus doesn’t spread itself. People spread the virus. Their choices cause illness in others.

We have had several people here locked up for not quarantine on their return, averaging 4/6 weeks in jail.

We are Covid free because people prevented the spread.

@BluebellsGreenbells

No, the virus is the problem, and the reason

The virus doesn’t spread itself. People spread the virus. Their choices cause illness in others.

We have had several people here locked up for not quarantine on their return, averaging 4/6 weeks in jail.

We are Covid free because people prevented the spread.

People don't go out wanting to spread viruses intentionally. The virus IS the problem.

My point was, stop trying to make people feel bloody guilty all the time. That never works, it just makes them resentful.

@HesterShaw1

My point was, stop trying to make people feel bloody guilty all the time. That never works, it just makes them resentful.

Isn't that the truth, but man, did my ultra-Catholic mother try!

Wonder if Christmas will be nice this year

My point was, stop trying to make people feel bloody guilty all the time. That never works, it just makes them resentful

Do you know what makes me resentful? My brother works for the NHS, he has had to swap jobs temporally, he is responsible for collecting the Covid bodies and taking them to the morgue. He doesn’t get much time off.
He didn’t enjoy the job, but someone has to do this. So while you’re complaining about having to stay 2 meters apart, and wash your hands or wear a mask. Be great-full it’s not you.

Oh get lost Bluebells. I haven't once complained about having to stay 2 metres apart. And lots of people don't enjoy their jobs and have to do them anyway., so lay off the guilt trips.