Teenagers in cluster from house party at Coatbridge

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-53804140

So it looks like 14 school aged teenagers (it's not clear if they are all school aged, but it sounds like at least 8 are) have contracted coronavirus through being at a house party.

It seems pretty obvious to me that older school kids can both contract and transmit Covid. This does not sound at all like adults passing the virus to kids, this sounds like a super spreading event caused by lots of teenagers indoors in close proximity.

@CrunchyNutNC

It doesn't matter whether this was in a kitchen, or a school corridor, or if the kids were passing a cigarette, or a lip balm. It makes no odds.

Of course it does. The specifics of the setting are a key factor. Social distancing of 1m, relatively large air spaces and surfaces cleaned, hands washed/sanitised regularly will make schools less of a risk than a group of teenagers in a small space with nobody prompting them to wash their hands etc.

I'm not suggesting that there is no risk in schools, I just don't think you can assume that it will automatically follow.

What school is that happening at? SD of one metre??? Really? When they are sitting next to each other, touching the people sitting next to them? Frequent hand washing and cleaning - again, really? No extra money for extra cleaning so who is doing this cleaning and who is checking 1000 students are frequently washing their hands, in schools with grossly inadequate washing facilities???

@Morfin in a way it would be better if the bubble bursts because at least they would all be off. With what is happening here you are likely to have a constant stream of children going off at regular intervals for 2 weeks at a time

[quote ineedaholidaynow]@Morfin in a way it would be better if the bubble bursts because at least they would all be off. With what is happening here you are likely to have a constant stream of children going off at regular intervals for 2 weeks at a time[/quote]
And across the country there are likely to be some areas affected more than others, so potentially inner city schools will be closing much more than schools in less densely populated areas yet next summer students will be in competition with each other in exams.

People are being utterly ridiculous by adopting the "head in the sand, all back to normal" approach. Even by saying this doesn't affect children - really? So school closures, parents ill or losing their job, lack of medical care (all likely if we just go back to normal) - none of that affects children?

I joined Usforthem in Scotland as when it started the only form of teaching being proposed by Scottish government was blended learning for the full academic year with 2 mt distancing. No. - if the numbers get down to this we can do this - no pure part time learning at a time when garden centres were opening and numbers declining.

I joined because it seemed at the time that DCs schooling wasn't on the list of priorities and for many blended learning equated to 1-2 days a week at school.

I do think it has now lost it's way as a group. Complaining about school bags and being allowed in with their DC to first day. I'd just be bloody grateful for a reasonable amount of schooling and an appropriate mechanism for handling infections. I don't feel strongly about masks - I feel they are a bit useless unless worn and cleaned properly so suspect it's a bit of a pointless exercise.

I do think there's value in staggering classes and trying to reduce corridor crushes, it's also worth having part time learning as a back up option, but to say it would be the de facto practice for a full academic year was never an acceptable option.

Teachers have not remotely forgotten what it is like to be young ; we are surrounded by gregarious teens every day. This is why we are asking parents now to help their teens to make responsible decisions for a few more weeks so that they can go to school in September minimising immediate issues of self isolation, shut down of potentially whole year groups,and even schools and thus safeguarding their own education.

Believe it or not, many of us have our own teenage children and, therefore, also know that not all teenagers are incapable of not going out and partying. By saying 'we have forgotten what it s to be young' you are removing any sense that teenagers might be able to be altruistic or make ethical decisions for the greater good.(and, ,a sit goes for their own good).

@Morfin

Education will be more disrupted if kids are dipping in and out of the classroom on 14 day isolations whilst the remainder keep being taught. How can a teacher keep filling those knowledge gaps, they can't support them with home learning as they will be teaching full time.

Agree with this

@IsaLain

Oh FFS. No one said primary kids dont catch it. We've said they dont seem to be spreading it. They dont seem to have as high a viral load, they dont seem to be passing it on to other people as much.

I don’t have to read beyond this comment. History is being rewritten

@HesterShaw1 @SaltyAndFresh

You two (and there are others) have the patience of saints. And I agree with you both

@RealityExistsInTheHumanMind that wasn't what I was expecting given that I've been called stupid, cruel, goady and nasty in the last couple of days, so thanks I'm delighted to say that I've finally developed the hide of a rhino whereas previously I've cried in my classroom over parents sticking the knife in if I don't give their children the grade they want (not looking forward to Thursday though!)