Teenagers in cluster from house party at Coatbridge

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-53804140

So it looks like 14 school aged teenagers (it's not clear if they are all school aged, but it sounds like at least 8 are) have contracted coronavirus through being at a house party.

It seems pretty obvious to me that older school kids can both contract and transmit Covid. This does not sound at all like adults passing the virus to kids, this sounds like a super spreading event caused by lots of teenagers indoors in close proximity.

@Mistressiggi

I'm the same age and I wouldn't have, tbh. 🤷‍♀️

Well, not that we'll ever know, we never had to deal with a lockdown like this, so it's a bit of a non sequitur, tbh.

Of course, it's been floated on here often enough that it's perfectly fine to leave 11-year-olds home alone all day and home learning, too, because they're in secondary school.

If what’s been posted by parents on here about frequent school closures and disruption leading to them losing their jobs is true, they may not have a choice.

If you keep them away from school, they will meet like this anyway.

The parents of the children in the 2 Primary schools that have closed due to COVID are already finding out how disruptive it is after their school has been open less than a week.

Indeo I just replied to the response you chose to make to my long list of 21st century extra options that teenagers have compared to the past. No one wants to be in a lockdown, but we thanked our lucky stars for a decent internet connection and various gadgets over the past few months.
Not a bad thing to sometimes count your blessings is it?

@HesterShaw1

How is it fair to expect kids and young people to give up their social lives and education indefinitely for a virus that doesn't make them ill on the whole?

Do people honestly think that older adults would uncomplainingly do the same for them? Stop all their clubs, their work, their social contacts, visits, travel...? For something that barely touches their age group?

No they plainly wouldn’t. We’ve seen that the older generation don’t give two fucks about young people by the very fact of voting for Brexit never mind anything else.

It’s ok folks they’re from Coatbridge so will all be related

Fgs I was just going to complain about the ageism coming out here and now I see there is some Coatbridgeism to deal with too!!

@CKBJ

Young people (and their parents) can’t have it both ways. For schools to open and remain open, social distancing and following the rules needs to be happening now so infection rate stays low. I can image the outcry if the government do a u-turn (another one, how many would that be?) and schools don’t open full time due to increasing infection rates. “My child’s life is being ruined” “They are being denied an education”. Many young people will have themselves to blame but their selfishness will affect many more.

They will have themselves to blame? Wow. These are not fully neurologically developed children you’re talking about. How unpleasant you are.

My kids love school and have had it drummer into them that obeying all the rules is what will help them stay in school. Other kids may not feel the same, or have the same parenting. Still doesn’t make them to blame if schools close.

@Railingsohno

No social distancing between pupils at schools. In Scotland anyway. Has anyone looked at the UsforThem Facebook page, the Scottish one? Scary stuff! Echo chamber only ever reporting children don’t pass on the virus. Any opposing view shouted down and people asked to leave. I am dubious that there is some cut off at 18 where prior to that they are not contagious. But no it’s the “namby pamby unions” being ridiculous apparently?

They are a very weird bunch

@giggly

It’s ok folks they’re from Coatbridge so will all be related

😂😂😂

@mrshoho

I've come to the conclusion that us4them must have an ulterior motive. They shout loudly that schools need to open as normal but in doing so will ultimately lead to them closing. If they really were interested in schools staying open they would be shouting for schools to be covid secure.

I think you credit them with too much intelligence

Us4Them Scotland were complaining that the children had to go outside in the rain at lunchtime. I bet they would also have complained if they had been kept indoors all day. They just want to get at teachers.

@ineedaholidaynow

Us4Them Scotland were complaining that the children had to go outside in the rain at lunchtime. I bet they would also have complained if they had been kept indoors all day. They just want to get at teachers.

They’re off their heads

@ineedaholidaynow

Us4Them Scotland were complaining that the children had to go outside in the rain at lunchtime. I bet they would also have complained if they had been kept indoors all day. They just want to get at teachers.

They need better moderation that’s for sure. Posts like that just show them in a poor light. I think they started off with an admirable aim - to put the voice of children to the forefront. However, I think they’ve lost their way and the conspiracy theorists have taken over (lunatics and asylum spring to mind 😁)

The anti vax nut jobs were evident on UfTS v early on. I joined the group and immediately left. Madness.

I do have some sympathy for the yp in all this. Their needs have been put very low down the list all the way through the pandemic so far. They made a mistake and went to a house party. No doubt we were all perfect at this age and never went out drinking, snogging, having sex (or wanting to), taking drugs whatever ...

Some Primary schools have closed too @IwishIwasyoda, I hope they haven’t been up to any of that!

Fuck sake it's bad enough that I need to live in the place without you lot slating it!

That's it, those in Coatbridge were just oiks, only neds would party 'in the middle of a pandemic'! hmm

I don't know anything about Coatbridge and said nothing like the things you put in my mouth,I have not said anything about 'oiks' and would not.

I just disagree with people who say that because they are 16/17/18 young people are all automatically less responsible. I see lots of irresponsible parents and grandparents.

Like every age group some are sensible or reckless, selfless or selfish, thoughtful or thoughtless.

Normally, with small exceptions, this doesn't matter as kids can ignore the people they don't align with - but with a contagious virus in an overcrowded school it isn't that easy.

Well, I wish my child was sent out in the rain. Several hours in one room all day is hardly best practice.

To the main point of the OP, I am fairly sure my youngest (primary school) brought covid into the house as he was ill with a fever a few days before I got classic covid symptoms. I had been working from home the previous ten days so if I got it at work, it was a long incubation, plus I have my own office. So it either came from him or a supermarket and I spent a lot more time with him when he was sick than a passer-by in a supermarket.

It really does seem quite obvious to me that it must spread among children and young people.

I think also it is only a matter of time before Scot gov introduce masks in schools, at least in secondary. It is madness really to be relying on hand sanitizers and extra cleaning when this is an airborne respiratory disease. The fact that there are cases of teenagers within a week of schools going back must prompt some kind of re-think on the current free for all (you would think).

OP, of course teenagers spread it more at a house party than they ever would at school ... they were not protected by the magical walls which makes schools ‘Covid secure’.

I am still disappointed after countless threads by teachers stating what school reality will be like cos, you know, we actually know what our classrooms look like, what are schools look like, the nature of our pupils, that some posters still think we can be 1m apart in a ventilated room with extra hand washing. Think my biggest laugh was reading the post that said pupils will be 1m apart from each other 😂 My school has 1250 on roll. I look forward to where I’m now teaching - air field perhaps??

It was ‘laughable’ that in the article it goes to lengths to say the teens did not contract the virus in schools. Okay, fair enough but look at the disruption the party caused. All contacts id those pupils had to isolate. This will be the reality. Schools may not close wholly or en masse but your child may have to isolate - repeatedly - as they will be sitting shoulder to shoulder in classes of classes of 30+ in unventilated rooms. And again there is no extra hand washing - there aren’t extra sinks, soap or even time to facilitate this.

I am really shocked by the number of people who think that the aim is that no one ever catches Covid.

This is not going away until we get a vaccine, the key is managing the levels of cases through track and trace.

House parties are not advised for obvious reasons and people who put themselves into that situation are stupid. But life cannot grind to a complete halt until there's a vaccine. Kids need to be in school.

@SockYarn

I am really shocked by the number of people who think that the aim is that no one ever catches Covid.

This is not going away until we get a vaccine, the key is managing the levels of cases through track and trace.

House parties are not advised for obvious reasons and people who put themselves into that situation are stupid. But life cannot grind to a complete halt until there's a vaccine. Kids need to be in school.

True, just as long as parents are aware that next academic year will be very disrupted as schools are not ‘Covid secure’ so situations like this will be commonplace.

Teachers aren’t calling for schools to remain closed, just asking for safer measures so schools can remain open for ALL pupils.

Education will be more disrupted if kids are dipping in and out of the classroom on 14 day isolations whilst the remainder keep being taught. How can a teacher keep filling those knowledge gaps, they can't support them with home learning as they will be teaching full time.