Why isn’t there more deaths atm?

[Mummypig2020]

Just that really. Obviously cases are going up and have been for a few weeks. Surely there would be at least an increase of people in hospitals by now at least? Or in a week or so are we going to suddenly have hundreds of deaths again?

I don’t see talking about care homes as a means of minimising past Covid deaths but as a hopefully avoidable occurrence (at least to that extent) in future

Not all the excess deaths are covid

True, deaths other than those resulting from Covid infection were caused by the Government and our society’s response to Covid.

However, it doesn’t follow that had the NHS simply treated Covid as a type of flu that there would have been fewer Covid deaths. It’s far fetched to think that had the NHS and society carried on as normal that there wouldn’t have been massively more Covid hospitalisations and deaths, and that Covid would have infiltrated other areas of medical/surgical settings very widely causing massive illness and death amongst vulnerable patients such as those with cancer....and people would have been even less likely to seek treatment and therefore die of non-Covid infections/causes.

as said, the deaths are only reported if they had a positive test within 28 days, in line with Scotland.
will this lull us into a false sense of security?

The non vulnerable "getting on with life" has lead to greater Manchester locking down again as a result

No they haven't, the local government made the decision to lockdown based on god knows what reasoning. Don't blame politicians' ridiculous decisions on normal people trying to live their lives.

People can take weeks to die, I would expect deaths in a few weeks.

Hospital admissions are at an all time low, the hospital my son works at had closed it's last COVID ward, don't need a ward that's empty.

I'm personally sick of it's going to happen in a few weeks brigade!

Heard from VE Day, BLM rallies, Cornish beaches and yet hospital admissions and deaths continue to fall. But the doomsayers continue with their, you just wait misery. They must be so fucking disappointed when it's not happening.

Testing is widespread, so you sneeze twice you get a test, that's why cases are rising.

Early days you couldn't bet a test unless you were on deaths door, clearly that's no longer the case we don't have 100s on deaths door. So the people being tested have mild symptoms that don't lead to death or hospital admission.

Waits for the ...... but you wait until October, December, 2021, the next century!

tbey should be at an all time low, tbe vulnerable people have only just stopped shielding and are going back to school etc. Give them a chance

So many know so much about a subject nobody actually knows about. What will be will be, but we could wear a mask, not a big deal.

Deaths I can understand will take a while but hospital admissions? 0 in the whole of London, when in April it was in the 1000’s

Hmmm

And the rest of the world?

My father was diagnosed with covid, xray showed crushed glass profile, he has been on dexamethasone for a month. But he was discharged as covid negative.

Lots of vulnerable people really haven't ventured out because things like doctors are not back to normal.

We are each relying on spin and choosing what to trust.

I don't trust the government. The virus hasn't disappeared and the rest of the world are taking it seriously. But in the UK its cool yeah?

I think the UK are taking it seriously, in Germany you can still holiday in France and Spain, in Sweden they didn’t even lockdown, the UK are stricter now than most European countries.

Yeah and there wearing a mask is mandatory, excellent example.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/coronavirus-germany-merkel-lockdown-cases-pause-a9675996.html%3famp

Oh god... second wave

The average no of deaths in the U.K. every day is 1600. Why are they even reporting 12 deaths due to covid? It’s minuscule in comparison.

because it is a pandemic and we have had 70k excess deaths this year.

I clearly live on a different planet

I don’t think Covid likes hot weather, or distancing. It likes the cold and lots of people close together

Because there hasn’t been any hot countries affected by Covid. Oh, hang on....

Higher levels of vitamin D in summer may be relevant. T cells are important in fighting off the virus and they dont activate if vitamin D levels are too low. Most people should be planning to take a small supplement of vitamin D this winter, between October and March.

There is no evidence that Vitamin D plays any part in Covid. But that aside, everyone should take a supplement in winter.

Brazil India Ecuador

• It’s frankly ridiculous to close the country for a virus that isn’t killing anyone. An utter joke which will end up killing thousands due to poverty, job losses and delayed cancer diagnosis.

Is no one else seething?*

And flu and pneumonia now killing more people than "the virus".

I see job losses announced every day, retailers closing, the NHS operating way below capacity, empty trains, buses and high streets, and people cowering in fear, too scared to even send their children to school. No holidays, no large scale weddings, no sports crowds...

And then I look at the daily figures for Covid admissions and deaths, and... nothing...

This. Is. Totally. fking. Insane.

So all those EXCESS deaths during a lockdown were caused by what in your delusional little world

@Mummypig2020

Just that really. Obviously cases are going up and have been for a few weeks. Surely there would be at least an increase of people in hospitals by now at least? Or in a week or so are we going to suddenly have hundreds of deaths again?

Ignore the tabloids, cases are not going up nationally. They are flatlining according to the CEBM, it's just that we're testing more than ever so we're picking up asymptomatic cases which we're previously going undetected.

CV19 is now mostly confined to a small number of boroughs. The rest of the country is fine.

1900 people in Croydon, similar in other London Boroughs. Mainly young people who have not followed the rules. The people who will be with my kids.

Minimising what is happening in the world clearly makes you feel safer. I get that.

The reason cases are staying low just now though is because of the measures. If they’re removed it will flare up again. On the other hand this pathetic existence with nothing open fully and everything half arsed can’t continue for any length of time either.

@RaspberryRuff

The reason cases are staying low just now though is because of the measures. If they’re removed it will flare up again. On the other hand this pathetic existence with nothing open fully and everything half arsed can’t continue for any length of time either.

The country should never have shut down in the first place.

Modern society cannot operate at 25% capacity which is what everything seems to be open at the moment. The high street and hospitality are going to die. Millions unemployed. No money coming in from tax to fund the NHS or deal with Covid. It’s a mess. This bloody vaccine can’t come quick enough.

@PhilCornwall1 and maybe if Boris hadn’t been such an arse at the start we might not have. With around 100k cases a day and cases doubling every few days it would have ended up a right mess very quickly x

Croydon has a population of 376,00 so I wouldn't be overly worried about 1,000 coronavirus cases. And even if your kids get it they will almost certainly suffer none or only mild symptoms.