Why isn’t there more deaths atm?

[Mummypig2020]

Just that really. Obviously cases are going up and have been for a few weeks. Surely there would be at least an increase of people in hospitals by now at least? Or in a week or so are we going to suddenly have hundreds of deaths again?

[quote loobyloo1234]@Jaxhog

I’ve not taken any risks. I’m just of the opinion that the media and Government would do well to print the positive side of less hospitalisations, less deaths, etc, It’s not the automatic killer virus they’ve made out previously. Hence mine and many others posts about being seething that we are being misled[/quote]
This!

The sheer covid hysteria displayed on many threads has been frightening at times. Covid has consumed many unnecessarily to the point that there's no rationale thinking going on anymore just an overwhelming fear of certain death by coronavirus. The media/government have fuelled this with its scaremongering.

Especially children, I know parents that wouldn’t even let there children play in the garden in case they caught it, I see people who have had to go out to the shop who look absolutely terrified. So much damage has been done. Will
it have been worth it? Time will tell.

they are looking for it now

Imagine it’s that more people were infected early on than reported due to lack of testing.

Just after lockdown started, DS and I had sore eyes, sore muscles, headaches, upset stomach and cough. I had it much worse than him, but was still “on my feet” and kept working from home (felt very rough maybe... 2 days?) No fever for either of us.
Couldn’t get tested. GP assumes it was covid, as classic symptoms - and as I
work on a university campus with confirmed cases I wouldn’t be at all surprised.

@Alex50 there's many children who haven't been out the front gate since March its so sad

Because hardly anyone has the infection! Same to soon when we went into lockdown thousands upon thousands were infected even if we were being told at the time that we had 10 positive cases. We had no way of knowing how many were infected. So 1000 cases a day will be a drop in the ocean compared to March I would assume (safely!)

Safe to assume that should say

I’m just of the opinion that the media and Government would do well to print the positive side of less hospitalisations, less deaths, etc, It’s not the automatic killer virus they’ve made out previously. Hence mine and many others posts about being seething that we are being misled

I agree that we could do with hearing more about the positive side. BUT, and it is a big but, this would lead even more people into thinking it was now all over. Beleive you me, if we aren't very careful, this winter could be very nasty. You only have to see what's happening in Spain to get an idea of where we could be headed.

So while I agree that there is no need to get hysterical about it, equally, we should not assume it's all over either. Cautious optimism is the way to go, with equal emphasis on the cautious.

Cases aren’t particularly increasing - detected cases are increasing.

"the NHS did not "get it very wrong" in the early stages of the pandemic."

People were being told not to get help until an extremely serious stage whereas we know now that early intervention is important. The NHS changed it's advice so it presumably admits it got it wrong at the beginning.

It’s because the real fatality rate is much lower than what was first thought - particularly for those below 60. The virus is not dangerous for the under 40s but dangerous for the elderly.

Even more than that - the elderly who already have co-morbidities.

Covid didn't really live up to expectations

People will not put up with restrictions much longer... In the past 3 days if we go with the average number, 4500 people have died in the uk.. 11 of them died from covid and the youngest was 81!

In the US Remdesivir is being widely used to treat the most serious cases and that has improved survival rates.

My main question right now is if this pattern continues - infection rate rumbles on, but hospitalisations and death rates remain stable or continue to fall, what impact does this have on lockdown? Surely we can start to cautiously move forward?

Maybe they've been pulling our leg OP.

Hot weather...there was a local newspaper article, with no new cases in over 124 local postcodes.

[quote loobyloo1234]@Jaxhog

I’ve not taken any risks. I’m just of the opinion that the media and Government would do well to print the positive side of less hospitalisations, less deaths, etc, It’s not the automatic killer virus they’ve made out previously. Hence mine and many others posts about being seething that we are being misled[/quote]
You only have to look at the situation in the US to see that we aren't being misled.

I don’t think Covid likes hot weather, or distancing.
It likes the cold and lots of people close together

Cases are up though, hopefully they are milder.
All the younger people I have talked to lately, have mild symptoms and feel OK

It has now been shown to be a mild illness except for the very very elderly and those with serious vulnerabilities. The vast majority of people are either asymptomatic or mildly ill.

There are many gloomy people on here who’ve been gleefully warning about a second wave of deaths for months. They’ve kept predicting massive spikes in deaths (Easter, VE Day, beaches, BLM protests, lockdown lifting etc etc) in spite of clear evidence that hospital cases and deaths are dropping.

They’ll now turn their rather desperate attention to “Long Covid” and start pivoting towards horrible tales of nasty after effects. They’re sad people who’ve loved the drama of all of this to fill their lonely lives and want everyone to be as miserable as them.

@Forgone90 absolutely - I for one am quickly losing patience with people who seem to think children should be returning to school in something like full hazmat gear. Covid does not justify this enormous disruption to their education and mental health.

Yes, agree it's a mix of more younger people having it (though I think the figures still show most infections are among older age group), better treatment and summer warmth mitigating it on a number of levels.

@MoiraRoseIsMyQueen - certainly if the situation continues the same during winter, yes, I think we could look at lessening lockdown, but they will have to give it some time to be sure, as in 6 weeks + into peak 'flu season' to be sure that hospital admissions/deaths aren't rising strongly. I suspect it wouldn't be wise to draw the conclusion now that it's just got less dangerous for various reasons and is no longer a threat.

Probably because they're testing way more, and catching mild/asymptomatic cases in young people. Back in Feb/March loads of people probably had it but were unable to get tested, only if it was severe enough to be in hospital, so cases were probably really undercounted and the death rate overestimated.

Wow

The figures have been massaged. They now don't count as covid if death after 28 days of a positive test, despite many studies showing that COVID can last much much longer in the worst cases.

They also seem to be testing far more women than men, which is strange given men are more likely to die.

For me, the ONS figures are the only ones I trust.

Death figures are down because society has yet to return to normal after lockdown. Once the schools go back and everyone carries on as if there is no virus, they will rise. At the moment there are less deaths from MVAs and murder.

3 out of 4 of my household are vulnerable so yeah we haven't been fooled by the "everything is normal" nonsense. I can't get a drs appointment in office and its impossible to catch a bus where I live. Doesn't seem very normal.

Each to their own, live how you are comfortable living. I prefer reality to denial, having vulnerable children makes this a necessity. I don't want them to be the guinea pigs used to find that oh yeah, that's erm a risk.

The truth is that they don't know much yet. Countries all over the world are still mid pandemic. True figures aren't known, because politicians want economies to recover, testing capacity is limited or misdirected, and people don't really want to know the reality its too uncomfortable.