to have run out of sympathy for people who find masks 'uncomfortable'?

[Frlrlrubert]

It might be because I'm out of tolerance for a lot of things at the moment but I've had enough of the 'but my face gets hot' and 'couldn't possibly wear one for 2 ours straight' brigade.

Barring medical exemptions, I think people just need to suck it up.

I wore an FFP3 mask at work day in day out for hours at a time for years. Yes, it's weird at first and it gives you spots and makes your eyes dry and sometimes your lips dry, but your body will adapt if you keep at it. (honestly, be glad it's not a rubber half mask or a powered respirator, both of which I've also had to wear all day for years and are grim/loud respectively)

If your glasses are fogging or it doesn't fit right try a different type - there are lots available. Mouldable nose strips really help with the specs.

You will need to speak very clearly when you talk so you can hear each other (I know it's shit if you have hearing loss - that is a situation I still have sympathy for).

Honestly, get one/a style that fits you properly, and get on with it, you'll get used to it. It really isn't that bad, and will save lives!

So... YANBU = people need to mask up and get over it
YABU = masks are the worst and comfort is more important

[MrsHerculePoirot]

@Rebelwithallthecause

It’s always quite telling how the comments are against the majority vote

Agree. It’s only on MN I’ve heard people moan so much about them or call them ‘muzzles’ or proclaim they are ‘child abuse’ 🙄 in real life I find everyone just gets on with it and I assume anyone not wearing one (which is relatively few including most children) has a reason not to be.

Some people mind less than others but honestly the comments I’ve read from people, without actual reasons, other than they don’t like it here do not reflect what I experience in real life. Ditto attitudes to full school reopening...

[DeepTreacle]

I’ve heard lots of people complaining or rolling their eyes about face coverings in RL - they still comply but they complain about it. Doesn’t bother me. I’ve even heard lots of complaints from friends and family who live in other countries, including south east Asia, but if MN were to be believed that couldn’t be possible, because apparently now one complains there! Mind you, nor do they add on the whole “but I do it because I’m Saving Lives and would flay myself alive if I thought one particle of virus had been transmitted within my vicinity” thing

[Mumoblue]

YANBU.
People with exceptions aside, a lot of people are being extremely childish and doing the equivalent of stamping their feet and saying "But I don't WANNA!".

Nobody likes wearing them.

[Isitbedtimeyet4]

@PumpkinPie2016 I recently realised that my glasses barely fog if I put the nose strip quite high up my nose and then wear my glasses on top of the mask! It might not work for you but the fogging drove me up the wall so I thought I’d share just in case!

[ButterMeCrumpets]

Several people in RL have complained about masks to me. I suspect if I was vocal like some on MN how anyone who isn't wearing one doesn't care about others or needs to suck it up they wouldn't have mentioned it to me.

Like me though they comply wearing a mask but are massively limiting where they go and spend their money.

[Justgorgeous]

Just been on the train and tubes for 2 hours, I really found it difficult but I did it. It’s ok to moan and struggle a bit with it, we seriously should not be having a go at people for moaning ! It’s a new thing and we are all trying.

[canigooutyet]

I'm exempt, and I stamp my feet and say I don't want to when I've been told how I have to and it's selfish of me not to. That I have to think of random strangers health and ignore my own and my families.

It's only been in the last week or so that more posters on line are starting to add, unless exempt.

[Justgorgeous]

@Drumple 💐

[birthdaybelle]

I pretend I just don't like them because I dont want to have to tell everyone about the time I had a scarf tied around my face while I was raped.

Yes, you can wear a badge or whatever but insensitive people still question it.

[countrygirl99]

@HopelessSemantics

YANBU

I am sick of the moaning.

Wear one or stay in. It's not that big an issue.

Most people who hate them are wearing them so you can stick that comment where the sun doesn't shine. You aren't the boss of anyone on here and you have zero right to police our likes and dislikes.

[loulouljh]

In real life I am hearing lots of people complain and change their behaviour as a result of them. They are uncomfortable and also in my view unnecessary. The rates of covid in most places are low and have been so for some time. So it is all in all a pretty pointless exercise.

[feetfreckles]

80% of infections come from superspreaders who can infect 10 to 50 people

Although rates of infection are low in many places, you only need to get one superspreader incident and your town too can be in local lockdown

[Hearhoovesthinkzebras]

[quote myhumps123]**@canigooutyet* @HopelessSemantics* just pointing out the double standards this society has. It's not ok for a Muslim woman to wear a face covering on as she is being forced too but it's ok for a bunch of men in politics to tell us to cover our faces and people are now turning on each other. Where is the solid proof that face coverings work? Please someone link some studies[/quote]
There have been endless links to studies on MN about the efficacy of masks. Even just a Google search will give you some to read.

[Hearhoovesthinkzebras]

[quote Lifeisgenerallyfun]@Burnthurst187 so you had words with someone not wearing a mask that you had no idea about.so if you knew she wasn’t wearing a mask because she was raped 6 months ago when she was nearly suffocated by someone placing hands over her mouth. She’s be suffering from ptsd ever since greatly triggered by having something over her face. She’s gone home and is frightened to leave the house again. Still proud of yourself you had words????

You have no idea what strangers in the street are going through - kindness and understanding go a long way.[/quote]
Maybe she had a go at her for standing too close? Are you going to come up with an excuse why she stood only a metre away from that poster, rather than the required two metres? Mask or no mask she shouldn't have been that close.

[RubyWow]

Let’s stop pretending they’re not really unpleasant to wear - they are! Especially in this weather. I am sucking it up and wearing one (or going out of my way to avoid situations where they’re required entirely, eg walking instead of taking public transport) but I really don’t see why I have to pretend it’s not fucking horrible. It’s a miserable experience walking around with damp cloth over your mouth, it just is. So if I want to complain about it then I will, no matter how much hyperbole I get in response.

[DeepTreacle]

I’ve also had absolutely no one in RL saying they refuse to wear a mask for a reason that doesn’t make them exempt according to the rules. What I have seen is lots of people complaining about people taking the piss, writing WEAR THE FUCKING MASK, going on about how selfless and virtuous they are

[TwoZeroTwoZero]

I hate wearing my mask. I even made one that I measured for my own face and moulded it around my nose with a piece of wire in the hemming tape but my glasses still fog up and it's "still" uncomfortable. I wear it though despite moaning about it.

[PablosHoney]

I e run out of sympathy for this precise topic.

[user1294625849274]

I always find it incredibly sad when it's traumatised people heaping judgement and blame on other traumatised people for having different experiences to their own.

Everyone's experience is different, and none of us has the right to use our personal set of experiences as a benchmark for what all other traumatised people should do, think, feel, and be.

If you can't have compassion for other traumatised people, would rather inflict unnecessary harm on yourself instead of give yourself permission to say no to something (as the law sets out provisions for you to do), and you can't understand that others are affected differently to you by their different traumatic experiences then you are not as far along in healing as you might wish.

Finding ways to mark yourself out as different from the other traumatised people who are weaker, lazier, more stupid, whatever just goes back to that basic traumatised reaction of trying to find a way to convince yourself you're in control again and won't suffer in the same way as those other people because they're different and bringing their troubles on themselves.

Very upsetting to witness the lack of compassion some traumatised people have for other traumatised people. And themselves in some cases.

It's not "defeat" to be affected by trauma, to recognise that leaves you with different needs and different challenges, and to adapt to a new way of doing things with compassion for yourself and others along the way. That's surviving.

[KimMumsnet]

Hi, OP. We're moving this thread over to the Coronavirus board now.

[countrygirl99]

[quote MissBaskinIfYoureNasty]@countrygirl99 thought police. That's like something my 7 year old comes out with. I'm not bothered that people moan about the masks, the masks suck and of course we're allowed to say so. I take issue with those who have spat their dummy out at every opportunity. Their rhetoric has been "I'm vulnerable but you're a big meanie for telling me to stay home. Now I'm free to go out but why should I experience any level of discomfort due to a mask. My right to do as I wish overrides any need for protection of others". Its downright pathetic and you can't call anyone on it or you're suddenly "ableist". Please.[/quote]
If that's the sort of person you are mixing with you need to change your friends. The only person I know in real life who wont, and it really is can't wearing one is a man in his 80s who has ptsd from being repeatedly gagged and raped as a 9yo by a relative. All his life he has had to be sedated for even a dental check up. He is the main carer for his very disabled wife and going to the supermarket is his only break because he can't get his usual respite care right now. But you just carry on feeling superior to people like him. Now he doesn't even dare have that little break because he has seen comments like yours on local Facebook pages and he is terrified of being challenged. I will carry 0n sticking up.for people like him and calling out people like you who think they can tell people how they should feel. And yeah thought police is exactly tbe right term.

[Elsiebear90]

YANBU, people are behaving like children trying to get out of PE about it tbh, coming up with every reason under the sun to get out of wearing one (and before anyone starts, I’m aware some people have genuine reasons) and being incredibly dramatic, claiming it’s virtually impossible as they “can barely breath”, conveniently ignoring the fact many of us have to wear them plus other PPE for 8-12 hours a day and have no choice about it. Yes it’s not nice, no one is saying wearing a face mask is pleasant, especially in the heat, but a lot of people are being very very dramatic imo, especially when they are choosing to go to places knowing they are required and are only have to wear one for short periods of time anyway. Of course people are entitled to moan all they want about anything, but people are also entitled to moan about people moaning and tell them to suck it up.

[Sailingblue]

I went out for the first time today where I had to wear one for an extended period of time. It was fine but not particularly pleasant in the heat. It will be the new normal for a while and I’d rather have the chance to do something with a mask than it be closed but I’ll only wear one where I have to. Most people I saw today put it on for the shops and then whipped it off ASAP as soon as they got outside .

[OpheliasCrayon]

Mumsnet virtue signalling about mask wearing is both hilarious and bloody irritating in equal measure.

Well done OP for your wonderful attitude for face coverings ..... Seriously what is the point of these posts?

[tsmainsqueeze]

I hate every second of wearing a mask ,but i do and i don't keep moaning about it.
I certainly don't want your sympathy .