Schools should close to save our economy, jobs and for our kids future as they will have to pay back all the debt in the future out of their taxes

[947EliseChalotte]

Aibu to think schools should not open in September as we don't know the long term/ future health problems from covid kids may suffer in the long term. pubs should stay open to save jobs, economy, and people's houses the kids in the future would only have to pay back in the future for generations taxes if we close pubs and get the country in more debt. Education kids can be homeschooled. For our kids futures ( health reasons and their future economy/ countried debts they will be left to sort out / pay back .schools should stay shut in sept and keep pubs open.

Well yeah, then maybe suggest part time pub and part time school, win win, isn't it?

You haven't answered any questions by pps. How do people cope with part time school, when they work full time?

FYI, I haven't read your post completely different to how you meant.

We own a nightclub, which hasn’t been able to open and are quickly running out of money. We are likely to loose our house shortly which will put both of us and my 8 year old on the street.
My best friend owns and lives above a pub with her 3 children if they have to close again it will be devastating for them.
There will be hundreds and thousands of people in the hospitality sector with children that are in the same situation - they will prioritise their businesses and jobs unfortunately before schools.
I personally want schools to open but if it’s detrimental to hospitality what are the people that rely on it for income supposed to do?

Whydididothatfuckingthing, I feel sorry for your situations. But you can cope with children being at home. There are people who can't go to work if the school won't open. They won't be able to have spare money to go to the pubs or night clubs if they lose their job.

@xolotltezcatlopoca

Well yeah, then maybe suggest part time pub and part time school, win win, isn't it?

You haven't answered any questions by pps. How do people cope with part time school, when they work full time?

FYI, I haven't read your post completely different to how you meant.

Part time school half the class in 2days the other half in 3 days etc and parents returning to work part time is better then not returning to work at all due to childcare. Part time school so kids are split in half reduces the likely effect of future whole class school closes as they would not have to keep all the classoff school if there was a case of covid just have to keep off the kids who were in the half of the bubble 15 ish. Which is a positive I think.

Do you work OP?

I am a single parent. I can't afford to work just 2 days a week or I can't pay my mortgage and bills.

The news reports say that a scientist is suggesting that Pubs or OTHER MEASURES may need to be restricted to allow schools to go back.

Given the governments focus on the economy I suspect that the 'other measures' will be socialising at home with other households.

I think that as transmission currently appears to be mainly in that environment that pending a vaccine the decision will be that people cannot intermingle households and that socialisation can only be outside with social distancing in place.

We're set on the idea that we won't be having anyone round for a good long time.

I can't work part time. My job is full time as is my DH's.
Going part time would be careers suicide for both of us even if we could convince our employers to consider it.
I'm not the only one in the situation. What would you suggest op?

Yes, let's keep the pubs open as emergency overspill space for the kids that can't fit into the schools with social distancing going on.

Bonus - pub-assigned teachers can briefly submerge kids in a large vat of gin at the entrance to sanitise them before lessons begin.

Ive got to pop out now so can't reply at the moment. I will have a little look tomorrow tho. Take care everyone xx

I cant afford to go part time and im guessing my employer wont pay my full time wages if i'm only working part tine.

Of course schools take priority over pubs

What about secondary aged children? It's not really a child care issues anymore, but it has more detrimental affects to the children's future if the school won't open. Are you ok with that?

*effects

I'm fascinated by the number of people who think it's "either" / "or". I very much doubt that the rising levels of unemployment are going to be short term. Some entire industries are pretty much finished, or on the brink of, in this country. Brexit was already threatening swathes of jobs, and Covid on top of that has pushed industries, not just individual employers, to the edge of oblivion. Schools don't run on air ( and neither does home schooling, unless I'm seriously underestimating the resources, knowledge and skills of the average parent) - people need to pay taxes for children to be educated. And in order to pay taxes, people need to have jobs - and that includes jobs in pubs and restaurants and all the other things people think are not as important as their own job or their own children's schools.

I really don't think that people "heard aright" what was said by Chris Whitty yesterday. Yes, we have probably exceeded the point at which we can suppress the virus. But the only way to suppress it now, short of a vaccine, is to live in permanent, or near permanent, lockdown. And that means that we get neither, not "either/or".

How do you propose all the parents who work homeschool their children?
Some will find alternative childcare, wfh or adjust their hours. Some may have to give up work.

And the effect of all of those people having to leave the workforce?
Less people than would have to leave the workforce due to the closure of the hospitality sector.

@xolotltezcatlopoca

Whydididothatfuckingthing, I feel sorry for your situations. But you can cope with children being at home. There are people who can't go to work if the school won't open. They won't be able to have spare money to go to the pubs or night clubs if they lose their job.

We won’t have a home for him to be at.... It really is a no win situation for so many.

@SueEllenMishke

I can't work part time. My job is full time as is my DH's. Going part time would be careers suicide for both of us even if we could convince our employers to consider it. I'm not the only one in the situation. What would you suggest op?

My suggestion and what I have kept saying I would love our freedom and normality back and to live with the consqences. In the past people have fought for our freedom.bBut the scientist are saying pubs or schools, partial lockdowns. I was asking people for suggestions how / what they would do like to see and some ones suggestion was part time school. If we went with my suggestion everything would be open so schools would be open! The scientist asked pubs or schools and I said pub / economy in reply to question given their two choices. What would you like to see happen ? Maybe schools open full time if you have to work full time? What ideas do people have on how to handle the whole covid situation , saving economy etc. I'm popping out now . See you all later xx

We need education, we do not need alcohol
But we do need jobs and taxes. Closing the hospitality sector would have a greater economic impact that closing schools. Everything the government has done lately has been about stimulating the economy. They haven’t spent £4bn on “Eat Out To Help Out” only to close the restaurants again.

How many children do you have @947EliseChalotte, what ages are they? Are you working full-time and can you work from home?

"Part time school half the class in 2days the other half in 3 days etc and parents returning to work part time is better then not returning to work at all due to childcare. "

I cant afford to go part time. Also that assumes my 2 children would be in school on the same days.

I am quite cynical. I'm from another country, and on my countries parental website. Life seems not so restricted, the school was open(it's holiday now) and restaurants and pubs were open. Sounded like they asked the people to restrict themselves.
I was comparing numbers when it all started, the number of positives were double that of England back then, but now while positives are increasing, death rate is so low. What's the difference?

Is the OP married to Climbdad??

I could cry

@TotallyHadEnoughNow

Is the OP married to Climbdad??

I could cry

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Maybe schools open full time if you have to work full time? What ideas do people have on how to handle the whole covid situation , saving economy etc.

Yeah, let's ration state school only to keyworkers, the wealthy will have public and independent schools and the remainder of the children ... chimney sweeps? Or more likely County Lines.

I'm popping out now . See you all later xx

Sure thing hunny. xx 💫🧚‍♀️

Covid kids??? Really 😬😬

The ban on inter mingling households thing - what about people who use them for childcare? Not to mention I think denying people seeing their families for years just wont work - I certainly wouldn’t not see mine for months on end whatever the government said.