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Scary Peer Reviewed Science - Trigger Warning

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ClimbDad · 29/07/2020 19:10

Taking Mumsnet HQ’s suggestion on board, this thread is for those who want scientific information about COVID-19. It is clearly advertised as scary, and has a trigger warning, so no complaints from anyone complaining they didn’t know what they were stumbling into.

I’ll only be sharing peer reviewed papers from respected journals and would advise anyone else who wants to share anything to use the same criteria.

The thread isn’t actually designed to scare. It’s designed to inform, so that people can make a decent assessment of risk and lobby decision makers when appropriate. Don’t assume government knows more than you. They’ve been behind the curve on everything.

I’ll start. The Guardian wrote a good article about the progress of respiratory viruses through autumn and how we don’t know whether SARS-COV-2 will compete with flu.

www.theguardian.com/society/2020/jul/19/what-happens-when-flu-meets-covid-19

The theory of viral competition suggests COVID19 might be kept at bay by flu. In other words infection by other respiratory viruses might help reduce the impact of a second wave.

However this peer reviewed study published in the Journal of Medical Virology suggests flu and COVID19 don’t compete, and coexist simultaneously.

onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/jmv.26364

The inference is that having SARS-COV-2 circulating at the same time as influenza will cause more serious infection. It doesn’t seem that viral competition will make things better.

Practically what does this mean? I believe it means it is prudent to be even more cautious during flu season than we were in spring, and to do everything possible to reduce transmission. That is going to be particularly relevant to schools. Even if one refuses to accept schools play a role in COVID19 transmission, it is established science that schools are the engines behind influenza transmission every year, so precautionary measures make sense even if just to reduce spread of flu.

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TheKeatingFive · 05/09/2020 20:44

I spotted him on another thread giving a teacher (quite detailed) advice on their legal position.

I thought that was ... interesting.

TheKeatingFive · 05/09/2020 20:45

I'm not sure any clinical team would be happy with their confidential data being discussed prior to publication on an internet forum. Not very professional @ClimbDad**

Yeah, I don’t think we need to worry too much about that. Wink

ClimbDad · 11/09/2020 23:23

US CDC advising that children do indeed catch the virus and transmit it to adults

www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6937e3.htm

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Inkpaperstars · 12/09/2020 02:24

I am sorry, I know this is a bit off topic...but is the brain damage aspect suggesting that those who have not recovered normal sense of smell might never do so? I honestly could cry about this. Almost everything I either can't smell or it smells horrible and not of itself but just burnt chemicals or something. If I smell the 'burn' I know there is an item nearby that smells, but not what it is.

tobee · 12/09/2020 03:17

How are the trials going @ClimbDad ?

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