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Lots of good news at the moment!

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FrugiFan · 21/07/2020 15:57

www.bbc.com/news/health-53467022
A trial of a drug which could reduce ICU admission by 79%, and is already in use for other things so doesnt need human trials for side effects etc.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53469839
Promising news about one of the many vaccines in production.

Hospital admissions have not increased, more than 2 weeks after pubs and restaurants reopened.

Lots of reasons to think positive at the moment Smile

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MarcelineMissouri · 17/08/2020 10:31

Scientists see signs of long lasting immunity to Covid-19 even after mild infections

www.nytimes.com/2020/08/16/health/coronavirus-immunity-antibodies.html

tobee · 17/08/2020 20:59

Sorry to post on here

Yeah, right
Hmm

BessMarvin · 17/08/2020 22:01

@KitKatastrophe

I havent seen anything new about the Southampton saliva test trial. However there was news today about a saliva test coming from Yale in the US which looks like a viable alternative. I dont know whether/when we will be able to get it here.
Thank you. Sounds promising and hopefully this sort of thing will be what's happening all the time here soon.
Jihhery · 17/08/2020 22:21

Jrobhatch29

So the graphs.

I saw them on Ian Campbell's youtube channel.

Current figures he has (which you can independently verify as the sources are transparent and easily accessible) suggest 8 children per 100 000 of the population are hospitalised with Covid and more than half are not asymptomatic. And yes, there are multiple people in their 30s in my local hospital with Covid and one person in their 30s passed away last week so anecdotally, it's not that great. Which is partly why I don't know why we swap anecdotes as it may not be relevant to where you are.

8 children may not be a significant number (and this may not be including those suffering a delayed immune inflammatory response which is a serious illness in itself) but it is highly significant when it's your child. Why wouldn't it be your child? It will be someone's child. I'm saying this not to alarm you but to point out the need for all of us to act and think as if these children are a collective responsibility, not a hypothetical possibility talked about by alarmists. If children are harmed unnecessarily, there will be no satisfaction as some have suggested. There will be heartbreak and 'Why didn't you listen, dammit'. This is not flu. I'm also thinking of the heartbreak caused to children who lose important extended family members, particularly important to those parts of the community hardest hit by Covid at the moment. BAME and deprived communities are especially reliant on caregiving from grandparents and these grandparents will be placed at risk if children return to school without masks and social distancing, regardless of how mildly they suffer themselves. The evidence that children don't play a major role in transmission is massively overstated.

Jrobhatch29 · 17/08/2020 22:27

@Jihhery

Jrobhatch29

So the graphs.

I saw them on Ian Campbell's youtube channel.

Current figures he has (which you can independently verify as the sources are transparent and easily accessible) suggest 8 children per 100 000 of the population are hospitalised with Covid and more than half are not asymptomatic. And yes, there are multiple people in their 30s in my local hospital with Covid and one person in their 30s passed away last week so anecdotally, it's not that great. Which is partly why I don't know why we swap anecdotes as it may not be relevant to where you are.

8 children may not be a significant number (and this may not be including those suffering a delayed immune inflammatory response which is a serious illness in itself) but it is highly significant when it's your child. Why wouldn't it be your child? It will be someone's child. I'm saying this not to alarm you but to point out the need for all of us to act and think as if these children are a collective responsibility, not a hypothetical possibility talked about by alarmists. If children are harmed unnecessarily, there will be no satisfaction as some have suggested. There will be heartbreak and 'Why didn't you listen, dammit'. This is not flu. I'm also thinking of the heartbreak caused to children who lose important extended family members, particularly important to those parts of the community hardest hit by Covid at the moment. BAME and deprived communities are especially reliant on caregiving from grandparents and these grandparents will be placed at risk if children return to school without masks and social distancing, regardless of how mildly they suffer themselves. The evidence that children don't play a major role in transmission is massively overstated.

And you are tagging me in this because....?

How does that have anything to do with you dismissing a PP's comments about there being nobody being in their local hospital Confused that is all we asked about....

Jrobhatch29 · 17/08/2020 22:34

Pretty sure we asked for a graph. Not a scare mongering rant about children.

tobee · 17/08/2020 22:40

And children die from flu also.

tobee · 17/08/2020 22:44

According to bbc 16 children died of flu in the winter of 2017-2018 in the U.K.. To look at it from another perspective.

TheKeatingFive · 17/08/2020 23:02

Why are people incapable of reading a thread’s intention and going with that? No shortage of other places to spread the doom on here.

Anyway, lots of threads in this section discussing the low hospital admissions and death rates, which are all reassuring.

This is interesting

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/aug/14/britains-coronavirus-death-rate-is-down-but-the-unanswered-question-is-why

thereplycamefromanchorage · 17/08/2020 23:09

I absolutely agree Keating.

Of course free speech, post what you like on this thread Jihhery, if you don't care what the thread is about - but actually it's about posting good news stories, because for some of us, that really helps. I know exactly where to find the doom laden threads if I want them.

Theluggage15 · 17/08/2020 23:20

Thanks to everyone for posting the good news stuff on this thread, sometimes it’s hard to realise that there is a lot of good news around, as it gets drowned out by those who only want to accept the doom and gloom, and can’t see past that.

I know this has been discussed before, but I’m still amazed at the improvement in death rates in hospitals, a third less dying in ITU, great news!

LampHat · 17/08/2020 23:27

Who is Ian Campbell?

TeaInTheGarden · 17/08/2020 23:27

I agree about the saliva tests, that will be really important. I can imagine parents being increasingly reluctant to test children repeatedly if the tests are unpleasant or even distressing. Avoiding tears is not what we want so we need them to be quick, easy and child friendly, ASAP!

I really hope we get to the point where we can test ourselves at home whenever we like, a pregnancy test style strip. Everyone to test themselves weekly or something like that- we could get numbers right down that way. I’m not sure if this is more or less realistic than a vaccine..?! But we can hope!

ChristmasinJune · 17/08/2020 23:41

@LampHat

Who is Ian Campbell?
Somebody who posts stuff on YouTube, so it must be right Grin
ChristmasinJune · 17/08/2020 23:43

@TeaInTheGarden

I agree about the saliva tests, that will be really important. I can imagine parents being increasingly reluctant to test children repeatedly if the tests are unpleasant or even distressing. Avoiding tears is not what we want so we need them to be quick, easy and child friendly, ASAP!

I really hope we get to the point where we can test ourselves at home whenever we like, a pregnancy test style strip. Everyone to test themselves weekly or something like that- we could get numbers right down that way. I’m not sure if this is more or less realistic than a vaccine..?! But we can hope!

Definitely agree with this, vaccine and effective treatment but also fast, reliable testing are what will keep this virus under control long term.
tobee · 18/08/2020 00:08

@Theluggage15

Thanks to everyone for posting the good news stuff on this thread, sometimes it’s hard to realise that there is a lot of good news around, as it gets drowned out by those who only want to accept the doom and gloom, and can’t see past that.

I know this has been discussed before, but I’m still amazed at the improvement in death rates in hospitals, a third less dying in ITU, great news!

Yeah but it's all magical thinking dontcha know Hmm

tobee · 18/08/2020 00:12

Honestly it's a shame this can't be a twat free thread. But in the last 7 months mn has been inundated with them and they want to infiltrate every last spot of this site. Can't imagine the magical thinking that must be involved to only see doom and gloom. The desire to show faux superiority must Trump everything.

KitKatastrophe · 18/08/2020 05:38

@Jihhery
Thanks for your input. However, as stated in the thread title this is a thread for positive news and discussions. We all know that this illness is serious but that doesnt mean we can't be happy about whatever positives do come along. Surely you agree that news about potential vaccines, faster testing and reduced deaths is a good thing?

Nobody here is suggesting that we should scrap preventative measures against covid, or denying that some people, including children, get very ill from it. So I dont really understand what you're trying to achieve here, apart from just making people feel miserable for the sake of it. Being scared of the virus doesnt make you less susceptible to it.

This is a thread for discussing positive developments in treatment and data. If you dont want to stick to that topic then this is not the thread for you.

cathyandclare · 18/08/2020 06:10

Good news story about immunity:

apple.news/AyrZozmNiQpG3ay066CtgFA

countrygirl99 · 18/08/2020 08:10

You'd think people would notice 8 children per 1900k of population being hospitalised. I'm in an area of concern and our total positive tests for the last 2 weeks have been 19 and 11.

countrygirl99 · 18/08/2020 08:11

@KitKatastrophe stress can depress the immune system so the scaremongers are actually making some people more susceptible to the infection. That's not a very nice thing to do.

countrygirl99 · 18/08/2020 08:12

That should be 100k not 1900k

Jrobhatch29 · 18/08/2020 08:24

The last time I looked only around 1000 0-16 had been hospitalised for covid. I say this as "only" because it is obviously awful and worrying for the parents, but children are hospitalised all the time for all manner of other contagious things. My 4 year old has had a week in hospital with rsv as a baby, and overnight stays for scarlet fever and bronchitis. He was hit hard by illnesses when he started nursery. My other son had an overnight stay for dehydration from a tummy bug. Kids are in hospital all the time for all sorts of things. I am not minimising that it is awful that some kids get really ill with covid, but it is not the only thing that can make them ill yet we don't worry about it in our day to day lives

Jrobhatch29 · 18/08/2020 08:36

[quote cathyandclare]Good news story about immunity:

apple.news/AyrZozmNiQpG3ay066CtgFA[/quote]
Great news Smile