Lots of good news at the moment!

[FrugiFan]

www.bbc.com/news/health-53467022
A trial of a drug which could reduce ICU admission by 79%, and is already in use for other things so doesnt need human trials for side effects etc.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53469839
Promising news about one of the many vaccines in production.

Hospital admissions have not increased, more than 2 weeks after pubs and restaurants reopened.

Lots of reasons to think positive at the moment

@icecreamvan what is wrong with sharing some positive news?

@TrindleGin
I'm not aware that Oxford have released any additional information on the trials and so I'm not sure where that article has come from. If you link to it we can probably check it out.

Have you got a link to that article @TrindleGin?

Most recent DM article I could find talks about 50% chance of a vaccine being available this year rather 50% chance of it not working at all. It does also take about how it might be more of a mitigating vaccine than a preventative one but I think we already knew that was a possibility.

• tarts spreading exponentially again;
• Oxford University researchers developing a vaccine were embroiled in an ethics row about whether to deliberately infect human volunteers – and warned that although there was a 50 per cent chance of a jab being available next year, it was likely to be only partially effective and carry side-effects;

Britain records ten more coronavirus deaths in preliminary figures
mol.im/a/8609261

I can only read the start of this but I liked what I read
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/covid-wards-empty-as-virus-death-toll-plunges-bvm0mxl2n

Icecreamvan we’re aware things are tough but there still will be pockets of positive news. This is the thread to find it.

@TrindleGin

Given that the mail provides no source for those comments at all (and I can't help but think that if there was any significant new information they would have written a full article on it) I wouldn't be too concerned yet.

[quote Sunshinegirl82]@TrindleGin

Given that the mail provides no source for those comments at all (and I can't help but think that if there was any significant new information they would have written a full article on it) I wouldn't be too concerned yet.[/quote]
Voice of reason x

@MarshaBradyo

Icecreamvan we’re aware things are tough but there still will be pockets of positive news. This is the thread to find it.

People like this piss me off there is so much depression and mental health people like this are praying for the 2nd wave

@icecreamvan

This thread is surreal.

What exactly is surreal about it? This is a crap situation, so should we all just descend into depression or look for the positive news (which is there if you choose to look for it,) to try and help ourselves through it?

Stay away with your nasty comments if you have nothing to contribute. Can't understand what would possess anyone to come on to a positive thread to just try to bring others down.

[quote TrindleGin]Britain records ten more coronavirus deaths in preliminary figures
mol.im/a/8609261[/quote]
That article is quite negative overall

However personally I see it as positive that cases have been gradually increasing for a few weeks with no increase on hospitalizations or deaths. Doesnt this shows that t&t is working and finding people who are positive si they can isolate.

Incidentally the case positivity rate (number of positive cases out of all tests done) is around 0.6%. It was stated earlier in the pandemic that a positivity rate of under 5% means the virus is under control. During the peak the positivity rate was up to 40%.

I'm so pleased I found this thread. I'd abandoned mumsnet for a while because it felt like everyone was wishing for a 2nd wave. I'm glad there's lots of others with a more positive frame of mind.

Apologies that should say test positivity not case positivity. Here is some further information
theconversation.com/test-positivity-rate-how-this-one-figure-explains-that-the-us-isnt-doing-enough-testing-yet-143340

I dont think that's true about the Oxford vaccine. I have small link with someone working on it and the news is still good.

If anyone isnt already doing so, I recommend following Professor Karol Sikora on twitter - reasonable, cautious but positive discussion and well explained statistics

I think, like this article, people are confusing “vaccine has 50% chance of being effective” with “trials of vaccine have 50% chance of demonstrating vaccine is effective by end of this year due to diminishing cases”.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/science/coronavirus-vaccine-oxford-university-uk-astrazeneca-a9530606.html%3famp

@Hotcuppatea me too it was getting me angry etc stick with us😘

[quote Triangularbubble]I think, like this article, people are confusing “vaccine has 50% chance of being effective” with “trials of vaccine have 50% chance of demonstrating vaccine is effective by end of this year due to diminishing cases”.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/science/coronavirus-vaccine-oxford-university-uk-astrazeneca-a9530606.html%3famp[/quote]
Thanks for explaining

[quote Triangularbubble]I think, like this article, people are confusing “vaccine has 50% chance of being effective” with “trials of vaccine have 50% chance of demonstrating vaccine is effective by end of this year due to diminishing cases”.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/science/coronavirus-vaccine-oxford-university-uk-astrazeneca-a9530606.html%3famp[/quote]
This article is from May and I thought they'd solved this particular issue by doing phase 3 trials in Brazil and India now?

@Layladylay234

More good news! The ONS says community spread looks to be levelling off. This was for the period of July - Aug (can't remember exact dates!). Think the chances of catching it in community are now 1 in 1900 people. And this is WITH summer holidays,WITH people going to pubs/restaurants. Great news imo

@Layladylay234 thanks for sharing this. I've been wondering about these sorts of stats/odds

Of all the covid threads you find this one surreal

@KitKatastrophe

If anyone isnt already doing so, I recommend following Professor Karol Sikora on twitter - reasonable, cautious but positive discussion and well explained statistics

Yes i follow him. Very balanced

So grateful for this thread...this is why I get so frustrated when people mention a second lockdown. The first one only happened because the hospitals were becoming too full - surely if we're careful now, and considering the fact that we seem to know more about this virus and be handling it better (and we've been fine since opening pubs and shops) surely a second lockdown would do more harm than good?

I follow Karol Sikora too - very grateful for his wise words.

I am getting utterly fed up of the gleeful predictions that if schools do open, they’ll be closed be half term. It all seems so defeatist.
I agree, if the majority do what’s needed, distancing, wearing masks, hand washing etc surely that should make a difference..
More good news needed today !