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Is anyone else sick of the mask brigade?

305 replies

SpongeCake23 · 16/07/2020 13:32

I am going to be wearing a face covering from the 24th.
However I’m getting sick of the constant steam of ‘shaming’ on social media especially.
The latest is a passive aggressive meme being shared which says ‘if you don’t like the mask, you definitely won’t like being intubated in the ICU’
I’ve just seen another one on a local page in the style of queen’s ‘we will rock you’. Basically “you’re a big disgrace, spreading your germs all over the place” blah blah blah.
I have anxiety and panic attacks and I am going to struggle wearing one, although I’m going to try my best. There are those who really won’t be able to for various reasons - asthma, copd, autism, other mental health issues and I bet they’re reading these posts feeling awful about themselves.

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AdaFromYorkshire · 16/07/2020 23:09

Did people make this much fuss when they were issued with gas masks in WW2 ? It would be really interesting to know.

IfOnlyOurEyesSawSouls · 16/07/2020 23:12

Im a registered HCP . Im actually sick of the none mask people.

The none mask people myself & my colleagues put ourselves in harms way to protect.

And no, none of us in the NHS signed up to work through a woefully managed pandemic, but we have done it nonetheless.

IfOnlyOurEyesSawSouls · 16/07/2020 23:12

Im a registered HCP . Im actually sick of the none mask people.

The none mask people myself & my colleagues put ourselves in harms way to protect.

And no, none of us in the NHS signed up to work through a woefully managed pandemic, but we have done it nonetheless.

RufustheRowlingReindeer · 16/07/2020 23:15

but remember that if you have a diagnosed medical condition like anxiety

Where does it say that?

I saw mental health exemptions but it didnt specify anxiety

sleepingpup · 16/07/2020 23:16

Did people make this much fuss when they were issued with gas masks in WW2 ? It would be really interesting to know.

Probably. People are people. But it's not really something you'd pass down in the stories afterwards.

"oh how we moaned....."

TempsPerdu · 16/07/2020 23:19

I remember when those laws came in, the awful fuss about it all and idiots thinking they were clever and big because they refused to do so. Now no one thinks anything about wearing a seatbelt. It'll be the same with masks, they'll become standard and no-one will really give the whole thing a second thought

The constant comparisons to seatbelts and drink driving bans are beginning to irritate me. It’s not a direct comparison; there was no obvious downside to either of those things, and the introduction of those laws didn’t disadvantage any particular groups within society. With masks there are wider implications for communication, social interaction and for those with hidden disabilities. It’s not just about them being a bit hot and uncomfortable - but then no one does nuanced debate nowadays.

ILoveTotoro · 16/07/2020 23:19

@SpongeCake23

I am going to be wearing a face covering from the 24th. However I’m getting sick of the constant steam of ‘shaming’ on social media especially. The latest is a passive aggressive meme being shared which says ‘if you don’t like the mask, you definitely won’t like being intubated in the ICU’ I’ve just seen another one on a local page in the style of queen’s ‘we will rock you’. Basically “you’re a big disgrace, spreading your germs all over the place” blah blah blah. I have anxiety and panic attacks and I am going to struggle wearing one, although I’m going to try my best. There are those who really won’t be able to for various reasons - asthma, copd, autism, other mental health issues and I bet they’re reading these posts feeling awful about themselves.
I am absolutely sick of it

And I saw that we will rock you thing on fb too, I want to know what the shop it was apparently displayed in so I can avoid it like the plague

Catspaw123 · 16/07/2020 23:23

I have seen the ventilator one lots of times on the facebook community pages, along with a strange one I didn't really get about pee? Terrible. I really won't be wearing a mask, thankfully I don't need to go in shops as I just online order everything now. The only issue was collecting my prescription once a month but I have found out now you can have it delivered, so I have arranged that too.
the ventilator one really is bad because it says if you get covid you will end up on a ventilator and that really is not true and all it does is frighten people who are anxious anyway
i am exploring how you get a lanyard or exemption statement for when I do need to go out.

Chloemol · 16/07/2020 23:24

I will wear a mask. My only concern is those without a medical condition claiming to have one so they don’t wear one

Grandmi · 16/07/2020 23:41

So can someone explain to me why wearing a mask on the 24 th July is suddenly so life changing ? How about yesterday,tomorrow ? I do understand that the more we know about the virus the more we can learn and appreciate that, but am wondering why this virus is not going to creep into schools,pubs ,gymns and restaurants !! Am just feeling very cynical about the agenda here ie the economy etc !

Grandmi · 16/07/2020 23:43

Agree catspaw ...lots of scaremongering !!

endofthelinefinally · 16/07/2020 23:49

I can't understand the amount of whingeing and whining over masks when it is clear that countries where everybody just gets on with wearing them have had much lower rates of infection and deaths.
Spare a thought for the poor HCPs who have been working 12 hour shifts in PPE in sweltering conditions, who have pressure sores on their faces from the masks. They have been doing this for months.
It is a soft, cloth covering. Not a gag.

endofthelinefinally · 16/07/2020 23:53

And, IMO, we should have been wearing masks in public buildings and on public transport since February. We knew this virus was coming back in January.

maggiso · 16/07/2020 23:58

Explanation cards for those ( medically) unable to wear a mask are available from appropriate organisations. The ones I’ve seen are from the British lung foundation and an autism charity, but there are probably others. You can download the card onto your phone I case you are challenged.
For those struggling with glasses steaming up- a strip of micro pore tape sticking the mask securely leak free over the nose helps ( but looks a bit scruffy!).

HeIenaDove · 17/07/2020 03:11

@Moonshinemisses WTF do you think MN is?

Meanwhile elsewhere?

steven murphy
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i was on bus GT150 yesterday. Me and my mate where questioned at the door about wearing a face mask, he said to the driver that he couldnt wear one(keeping in mind he has a free travel pass for his disability). The driver wouldnt let him on and made a show of him

HeIenaDove · 17/07/2020 03:28

YY @Grandmi I suffered from recurrent facial impetigo in the past. I posted this on another thread because it touches on the pub thing.

This is why i have bought a pre op scrub to apply to my face before putting a mask on. But i will ONLY be doing this for an essential shop. I dont see why i should put myself at risk of a pre existing skin condition OR cover myself in a pre op scrub to try and prevent said condition re occuring under the mask for the sake of the High Street especially when the Wetherspoon goers are fighting outside there on a Friday night sans masks and sans social distancing. Fine for being drunk and disorderly £40 to £80 Fine for no mask £100!!

I spent months abiding by the lockdown and not going to see my 84 year old mum despite her crying on the phone.

We both did NOT break the lockdown NOW it looks likely she will get hassle in supermarket for not being able to wear a mask.

We did as asked and now the binge drinkers and pissed up troublemakers get the concessions?

And it just gets glossed over and ignored.

MRex · 17/07/2020 06:07

People whittering on either side of pretty much any topic get annoying on social media, the trick to handling it is to do something else instead of spending your time getting annoyed by something you chose to open. It isn't work, you aren't getting paid to read it, shut it down. (Unless you work in social media monitoring.)

I do think we need visors to be more readily available, then people can wear a mask or a visor or both. Exemptions for little kids or those with severe learning difficulties, but nobody else needs to be exempt.

Rebelwithallthecause · 17/07/2020 06:10

Il wear one but not happy about it

I don’t beleive the risk is the same now as what it was based on the R number where I am being tiny in comparison to what it was 2 months ago

Derbygerbil · 17/07/2020 06:59

The constant comparisons to seatbelts and drink driving bans are beginning to irritate me. It’s not a direct comparison; there was no obvious downside to either of those things

There is for drink driving... On countless occasions I’ve had to forego drinks at a party or a restaurant just in case I crashed into someone when I drove home. It’s a far more significant impediment to my freedom than a mask for shopping would ever be.

And for seat belts too... Some people have issues wearing them for medical reasons. They are restrictive and constrictive like masks and people complained with those reasons at the time... we’ve just got completely used to them.

madbirdlady22 · 17/07/2020 07:11

I will be wearing a loose silk covering if I absolutely have to go to a shop, as a mask causes me to feel stressed and faint as soon as I put it on. I have claustrophobia. Apparently 10% of the population have the same thing when it comes to masks. I will not simply 'get used' to it, as it is very difficult to overcome. My doctor said I would be entitled to an exemption card, but I am not willing to be compromised every time I go out by someone asking me why etc. I am not getting into that every time I go out to buy a cake or some socks!

I will do all of my shopping online and avoid shopping in person from now on.

I won't be shopping or doing anything else that requires wearing a mask op. It is as simple as that. So yes it will limit what I can do, but that is easier than feeling like I am going to pass out.

I think masks are generally a good idea, in theory, if people can wear them comfortably, but I do think it will have a chilling affect on shopping etc as many will simply decide it isn't worth the unpleasant experience of wearing a mask. It will prob fast track the decline of the high street.

hopingtobedally · 17/07/2020 07:12

Ahh that's original , mask thread 1822738272

madbirdlady22 · 17/07/2020 07:19

The most galling thing is the guys in the pubs can happily sit there drinking away completely maskless and zero social distancing, and thats okay apparently! But you can't go into a shop without one.

The most annoying thing for me about covid are the number of contradictions.

You can go to the pub without a mask but not a shop.
All theme parks are open, but most secondary schools have been closed for six months in September.
You can go and fly to the other side of the world on a packed flight with no social distancing whatsoever, and not have to quarantine at all, but you can't get your eye brows waxed/facial even with the therapist in full PPE.

I am sick of it personally. There is no logic to any of it!

TempsPerdu · 17/07/2020 07:43

@Derbygerbil

Sorry but neither of those things are anywhere near being at the same level. Seatbelts for instance come with none of the cultural baggage of masks. Dislike or even fear of masks isn’t a new phobia that some snowflakes have concocted because they’re a bit uncomfortable to wear; it’s deep-seated in our culture. We are hard-wired to recognise human faces and naturally fearful and distrustful when we can’t - just think of the previous hoo ha (all forgotten now) about the niqab, similar debates about balaclavas and motorcycle helmets etc.

’Maskophobia’ is extremely widespread and in many ways a natural part of childhood development (many pre-adolescent children fear masks because they’re much less adept at recognising partially obscured faces than adults are). Every self-respecting horror movie villain wears a mask - because it evokes such a visceral response in the audience. Masks are a symbol of ‘otherness’, and for some people represent oppression or abuse.

None of this means we shouldn’t try to adapt to masks as an emergency, temporary measure but it’s not as straightforward a choice as you make it sound.

Rebelwithallthecause · 17/07/2020 08:09

I wore a mask yesterday to go to the doctors and realise now what the worst thing is about wearing a mask.

I burped whilst wearing it and pretty much gassed myself

I’d had a vegan burrito for lunch Blush

Wilburgh · 17/07/2020 08:46

Did people make this much fuss when they were issued with gas masks in WW2 ? It would be really interesting to know.

Anecdotally from my father, yes they did. He’s in his late 80s and was a child during WW2. He remembers the fuss. He also remembers people refusing to go to air raid shelters, the meetings about being forced into it and ‘losing freedom’, fighting the blackouts, the heated meetings his mother would go to about closing the schools when he and his older brothers would have to be evacuated from classrooms to the air raid shelter (My dads first day at school as a 4 year old the sirens went off). Then there were those saying it was all nonsense and everything should continue as usual.

He and his older brother have spoken a lot about WW2 and the similarities of people’s behaviour during the pandemic.