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Schools guidance released

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Orangeblossom78 · 02/07/2020 10:48

www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-53253722

No dropping of subjects at GCSE then. Posting for info

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Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 03/07/2020 15:11

Presumably alcohol gel can be used to clean hands

Ok. Is government providing supplies to schools?

In secondary schools it would help if children wore masks in the corridors too. All these things would significantly reduce infection.

Yes they would. So why have government rules them out?

Sawsajis · 03/07/2020 15:13

When I was at school we occasionally had fire alarms when a kid wanted a break from class, so set one off. Covid is going to be a great opportunity for kids to bunk off and possibly take their bubble with them. A few coughs or "I can't smell or taste anything" and it's an instant reprieve from their least favourite subject.

mrpumblechook · 03/07/2020 15:17

Ok. Is government providing supplies to schools?

It should certainly be publicly funded in the case of state schools.

Yes they would. So why have government rules them out?

Because they are incompetent.

ListeningQuietly · 03/07/2020 15:17

Oh yes, alcohol hand sanitizer all over Secondary schools will be just brilliant Hmm
www.thoughtco.com/hand-sanitizer-fire-project-607488

mrpumblechook · 03/07/2020 15:19

When I was at school we occasionally had fire alarms when a kid wanted a break from class, so set one off. Covid is going to be a great opportunity for kids to bunk off and possibly take their bubble with them. A few coughs or "I can't smell or taste anything" and it's an instant reprieve from their least favourite subject.

That may happen unfortunately but it's not a good reason for keeping school closed and denying an education to all children.

mrpumblechook · 03/07/2020 15:21

Oh yes, alcohol hand sanitizer all over Secondary schools will be just brilliant hmm

Considering that a lot of children will have it anyway is not a good reason for not supplying it to those who don't.Hmm

Flagsfiend · 03/07/2020 15:51

Hand sanitizer is harmful if ingested, so I don't think schools can go handing it out. It's also considerably more expensive than soap and we aren't getting extra funding.

mrpumblechook · 03/07/2020 16:01

Hand sanitizer is harmful if ingested, so I don't think schools can go handing it out.

All sorts of things are toxic and dangerous but that so doesn't mean they are not used in secondary schools. I don't think having alcohol dispensers on walls which children can use on entering a classroom is going to lead to some ingesting it. Washing hands would be better but in secondary schools not practical.

hedgehogger1 · 03/07/2020 16:02

I've still not seen the staggered lessons to avoid corridor mosh pits explained in a way that makes any sense...

MarshaBradyo · 03/07/2020 16:06

Covid is going to be a great opportunity for kids to bunk off and possibly take their bubble with them. A few coughs or "I can't smell or taste anything" and it's an instant reprieve from their least favourite subject.

They’d have to test positive wouldn’t they? To make everyone else stop.

If they really want to slack off well they could pretend to be ill anyway.

hashtagbollocks · 03/07/2020 16:07

So, according to government rules, an entire secondary school has to wash their hands at lesson change? How????
sanitizor bottles on the wall next to classroom doors? squirt and rub on arrival and leaving?
Have you not been in any shops yet where this is what you do?

veryvery · 03/07/2020 16:09

They’d have to test positive wouldn’t they? To make everyone else stop.

Yes, but test and trace is anonymous. If someone was contacted by a contact tracer they are supposed to isolate for 2 weeks even if they don't have symptoms. It could be a family friend, for example who contracts Covid whom you have all seen.

MarshaBradyo · 03/07/2020 16:13

I doubt the school will do more than tell the child to go home and await results. What does the guidance say? I think it is that.

TimeWastingButFun · 03/07/2020 16:15

Eek! Scary but at the same time it is time to get them back to school, Feeling very fortunate that there are two of us to do the school run as there's no way I want my secondary school child on the bus for the foreseeable future.

MarshaBradyo · 03/07/2020 16:15

Doesn’t test and trace to contacts kick in with positive test too?

TimeWastingButFun · 03/07/2020 16:17

OK. Is government providing supplies to schools?
My son was taking his own hand sanitiser in to school before lockdown. It's not expensive!

MarshaBradyo · 03/07/2020 16:18

Same here Time

Even if everyone can’t, many will.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 03/07/2020 16:19

sanitizor bottles on the wall next to classroom doors? squirt and rub on arrival and leaving?
Have you not been in any shops yet where this is what you do?

So, someone needs to pay for it and procure it - is government going to do this? How many classrooms in every secondary school? That's a lot of bottles of sanitizer at £30 a go.

Then you've got to have someone supervising it to make sure it's not squirted out all over the floor, drunk or stolen (as happened in hospitals that I've worked at - both drunk and stolen).

ohthegoats · 03/07/2020 16:21

alcohol hand sanitizer all over Secondary schools will be just brilliant

We were having it squirted in other childrens' eyes by the usual suspects.

It's not expensive

Privilege speaking there.

Letseatgrandma · 03/07/2020 16:21

sanitizor bottles on the wall next to classroom doors? squirt and rub on arrival and leaving?
Have you not been in any shops yet where this is what you do?

Yes, definitely. Presumably the shop is providing it.

The government aren’t providing any of this for schools and many schools have nothing left in their budget. We are in a deficit budget so have less than no budget!

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 03/07/2020 16:22

My son was taking his own hand sanitiser in to school before lockdown. It's not expensive!

I've just paid £9 for 500ml. I think that's quite expensive.

hashtagbollocks · 03/07/2020 16:23

So, someone needs to pay for it and procure it - is government going to do this? How many classrooms in every secondary school? That's a lot of bottles of sanitizer at £30 a go.
Then you've got to have someone supervising it to make sure it's not squirted out all over the floor, drunk or stolen (as happened in hospitals that I've worked at - both drunk and stolen

yeah, you're right; those are insurmountable problems
I wasn't thinking straight, let's keep the schools shut forever

BrickOgrass · 03/07/2020 16:25

alcohol hand sanitizer all over Secondary schools will be just brilliant*

We were having it squirted in other childrens' eyes by the usual suspects.
*
It is also slippy if it drips on the floor - I had a nasty accident in the classroom recently after slipping on some they had been spilled.

hashtagbollocks · 03/07/2020 16:27

FFS, are you really using the fact that handwash is slippery as a possible reason to not open schools? Really? You really can't think of any way at all in which that terrible problem can be solved?

FrippEnos · 03/07/2020 16:29

mrpumblechook

That may happen unfortunately but it's not a good reason for keeping school closed and denying an education to all children.

No one is saying that it is, just that it is very likely to happen.

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