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Schools guidance released

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Orangeblossom78 · 02/07/2020 10:48

www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-53253722

No dropping of subjects at GCSE then. Posting for info

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Char2015 · 02/07/2020 12:21

@79Fleur

Has anything been said about clinically vulnerable children or parents / staff? I appreciate that shielding is paused from August but it does not remove the serious risks for these groups. I had a brief look and could not find anything about risk Assessment of these specific groups.
There isn't. All children expected back in and they don't give a damn about vulnerable staff or parents. Pretty much what I expected from our Government. Remember, all they care about is money, and the only way forward for them is to get children in so parents can get to work and start earning money for them.
Beebityboo · 02/07/2020 12:23

DD has to get a very busy bus or she can't go to school. Two in primary school and I'm supposed to be going back to university (and will need to get a bus).
So worried, so stressed, but desperately want some sort of normality back.

BestZebbie · 02/07/2020 12:28

We are currently going to school with staggered drop offs - the different bubbles use different entrances and each bubble has a few children arrive every 15mins - so it takes half an hour at start and end of day to get everyone in and clear them all out again (they do have tasks at their desks during their particular half hour wait).
This very cleverly means that siblings in different bubbles can have the same drop off time slot, and also reduces the queues at each gate.

Beebityboo · 02/07/2020 12:32

Jusy realised how awfully self absorbed my post was. I really do feel for teachers and staff and vulnerable parents (I'm one of them). Feels like teachers have been thrown under the bus completely.
A part of me is secretly hoping the government knows for sure a timely, working vaccine is going to be available.

Mummyoflittledragon · 02/07/2020 12:35

Thanks for posting. I’m hoping to have surgery. Dd will need to have time off before and after the op I presume. I’ve read it’s 2 weeks either side. Then I won’t be able to drive for 6 weeks. She will have to take the bus to school.

Bobbybobbins · 02/07/2020 12:37

I can just about see how it could work in primary but not getting how they can keep 7 year groups apart in a big secondary school like mine. We only have two buildings.

nellodee · 02/07/2020 12:38

So to summarise, if you can, take a few extra precautions, but if you can't, fuck it, just go back anyway. Did I miss anything?

motherrunner · 02/07/2020 12:39

@monkeytennis97

I'm petrified as a secondary school teacher married to another secondary school teacher.
Me too.

I also have children at different schools who will mix across user groups as would need wraparound care.

I feel sick.

motherrunner · 02/07/2020 12:39

*other

RedToothBrush · 02/07/2020 12:41

If whole year groups are 'bubbles' this is not a bubble.

Not when numerous children in that year with have numerous siblings in other groups.

I just think its stupid at that point when you have 240 kids in a 'bubble'. Thats probably 30 kids with 30 siblings in a year two / three years apart at the same school.

It defeats the entire point of a bubble!

If you only need two cases in a year, than that could get very interesting come autumn when kids start getting colds.

Imagine 'little Joshua is literally trying to kill little Jaxon with his sniffle'.

How the fines stuff will be enforcable under that situation I do not know.

RedToothBrush · 02/07/2020 12:47

The staggered drop off stuff will be the stuff of nightmares too.

Our 4 reception bubbles are spread out over the course of an hour in the morning and an hour in the afternoon.

Imagine having one child at 8.40 and another at 9.40. And then having to do the same again at home time!

How on earth are parents who are trying to work going to do that.

Also in terms of after school care, is that even possible? Most kids go to the next door nursey afterschool for us - but its mixed year groups. Unless the staff from the nursey come over to the school then they can't do it, and they don't have the staff to do it. That means no afterschool care. And can the staff from the nursery who have been in bubbles with the nursery children even do that anyway?

It sounds like a total nightmare in terms of logistics.

I can not see how it will work nor how it will mitigate the spread anyway!

dolorsit · 02/07/2020 12:48

My eldest dd year group has 300 children. My youngest dd is in a larger year group as they added more forms for her intake.

I think talking about bubbles in this context is a bit daft.

dolorsit · 02/07/2020 12:48

My eldest dd year group has 300 children. My youngest dd is in a larger year group as they added more forms for her intake.

I think talking about bubbles in this context is a bit daft.

nellodee · 02/07/2020 12:51

350 students in the "bubbles" at my school. All arriving packed on buses with students from all the other "bubbles".

DomDoesWotHeWants · 02/07/2020 12:52

Time for the unions to tell them where to go.

Jason118 · 02/07/2020 12:55

I'm sure the unions will have been heavily consulted before these were released, just to avoid future problems.

DomDoesWotHeWants · 02/07/2020 12:55

@Jason118

I'm sure the unions will have been heavily consulted before these were released, just to avoid future problems.
hahahahahahahahahaha
Burnshersmurfs · 02/07/2020 12:56

@monkeytennis97

I'm petrified as a secondary school teacher married to another secondary school teacher.
I can see why. As a secondary teacher, my 'consistent group' on a full day is between 120-160 people. Teachers in other depts like RE can teach over 1000 different students a week. It wouldn't be possible to re-jig timetables at this stage (a hugely complex operation that takes months to sort). I'm relieved to be heading out the door for the last time at the end of term, but so worried for those who remain.
Schools guidance released
BlueBrian · 02/07/2020 12:56

This is just the opening position from the government, they know it won't happen, all they want to do is try to make sure they don't get blamed when it doesn't.

Char2015 · 02/07/2020 12:57

@Jason118

I'm sure the unions will have been heavily consulted before these were released, just to avoid future problems.
Take a look at the NEU's response. I can assure you the unions were not consulted at all.
Jason118 · 02/07/2020 12:58

@DomDoesWotHeWants I didn't even need to put smileys on my post Grin

havefunpeleton · 02/07/2020 12:59

Thank goodness for that!

I think things will return more quickly towards normal after everyone settles back in.

I'm relieved no masks, focus on hand washing, and all back full time.

Hopefully the unions will stop scaremongering now and things can calm down a bit!

ScarletZebra · 02/07/2020 13:00

The secondary school DD goes to has vertical tutor groups. How will that work?

Also the buses are usually full, as are the bus stops. Will they be able to use the buses?

Rushhomeroad · 02/07/2020 13:01

My DS will be in a cosy bubble of 450 and my DD will be in a bubble of 240 (at different schools). I'm terrified - lost a parent and a friend already Sad

BaconAndAvocado · 02/07/2020 13:02

The staggered drop offs and pick ups sound like a PITA but if that's what is necessary for a while I just have to get on with it.

This is 8 weeks away too.

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