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36 areas in UK at risk for lockdown ‘within days’ - are you in one?

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Lumene · 01/07/2020 11:38

Really need to be able to access local data on risks like this instead of finding out through news outlets:

news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-bradford-and-london-boroughs-among-36-at-risk-areas-that-could-be-just-days-away-from-local-lockdowns-12018594

Not happy at all, why is govt not being transparent with data?

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Piggywaspushed · 01/07/2020 18:06

I haven't seen anything on teatime Look East! How odd!

I wonder if we are in the same village as my only source of info is one villager who sporadically post things and stuff from Mayor Dave.

But with the death of the local paper delivered door to door there is little public awareness : as you said, unless you take an interest.

And because the rest of the East is relatively OK, unlike perhaps the NW , it's not a news focus.

Every time I see Captain Tom I think 'get back indoors and away from those people, Tom!'

Itscoldouthere · 01/07/2020 18:22

@Piggywaspushed I see most of it on an actual Bedford FB group I’m on.
Although the FB posts about playgrounds today were in the village page.
I did see an interview with mayor Dave on Look East about a week ago, they’ve been talking about numbers being high for about 3 weeks, they don’t seem to be getting any worse, but aren’t going down either.
I haven’t been into Bedford, I used to walk my dog in Prioy Park but have just been going more local/more remote, not that I’m ultra worried or in a vulnerable shielding group or anything just being cautious.

LovingLen · 01/07/2020 18:55

It was just on Look East, a short article about Covid levels in the area and that the new numbers would be out tomorrow. I’m in Rushden so a few miles away.

Piggywaspushed · 01/07/2020 19:32

Yep, saw it. Thanks. Seems to be generating some interest now.

Bol87 · 01/07/2020 19:48

What are people in Leicester genuinely doing if they live in Leicester but work elsewhere? We are similar, we live in a council that’s an area that’s ‘at risk’ but both work in another one. Our daughter also goes to nursery in another council area.. so presumably if our area locks down but next door doesn’t, we’d still have to pay nursery fees as nursery will remain open. But DD couldn’t attend. Which is shit.

When they say ‘at risk’ as well, what does that mean? How likely are we to lockdown? And when? I’ve got relatives visiting in the next week & they wouldn’t want to get stuck here?

MintyMabel · 01/07/2020 20:02

36 areas in England.

I’m sure you know the difference between England and UK, OP?

GlacindaTheTroll · 01/07/2020 20:12

"Are we to assume the Government is modelling its public information releases on the Amityville councillors in Jaws?"

Yes, it's perfectly safe to go into the water....

LovingLen · 01/07/2020 20:26

Bol87 I think if you have visitors and the place they are visiting goes into lockdown they would just go home because even if they were stopped their address would not be in the locked down area, it’s only spot checks that the police are doing. Obviously they wouldn’t hang around too long if lockdown was announced and would quickly leave.

RedToothBrush · 01/07/2020 20:43

Jennifer Williams @JenWilliamsMEN
On pillar 2. There’s been a bit of a mystery around the ‘gdpr’ problem that meant this data didn’t go to councils. One public health official says they reckon Deloitte - and everyone else procured by govt - were never told to notify this as a noticeable disease 1/

By default, this is a notifiable disease. But if that fact isn’t made clear by the govt people who hired you, you don’t necessarily collect the data accordingly. So, it seems, they didn’t. It wasn’t ‘robust and systematic’. “Hence the reluctance to share.”

Deloitte - as an outsourcer - would not automatically know that this was necessary.

This was ‘a rush to deliver activity without thinking through how you tackle the consequences’.

I asked them for their view of what Deloitte’s expertise in this comprises and the a was: “None at all.”

Having said that, suspect govt, in the absence of the local structures it should have had - partly because it tried its best to kill them from 2010 - went for what it knew.

Was the solution below par? Yep. But in 2020, we are where we are.

www.gov.uk/guidance/notifiable-diseases-and-causative-organisms-how-to-report
Covid-19 is listed as a notifable disease which must be reported to local authority proper officers under the Health Protection (Notification) Regulations 2010 within 3 days or 24 hours in urgent cases.

It therefore is a legal requirement that Deloittes should have been passing on this information to local health authorities from day 1. Except because they are accountants, they didn't know this.

reinacorriendo · 01/07/2020 20:55

We had email from local school which the local council sent basically saying the news report isn’t correct at all so I have no idea...Hancock you there mate or you off chuckling at something?

Piggywaspushed · 01/07/2020 21:26

They must have heard me over in Newsworld because Bedford is now on the front page of the BBC website!

PatriciaHolm · 01/07/2020 21:33

The PHE report into Leicester has just been published and updates the 7 day infection rate to 21-27 June, and has Bedford's rate coming down 21% -hope that is good news!

36 areas in UK at risk for lockdown ‘within days’ - are you in one?
PatriciaHolm · 01/07/2020 21:35

Actually in absolute terms it's halved!

Piggywaspushed · 01/07/2020 21:38

I hope that is good news Apparently 11 deaths yesterday in Bedford after 10 days without any. But , I guess that could be reporting lags etc.

ListenLinda · 02/07/2020 07:30

Look at that table @PatriciaHolm my area has dropped 30% so wtf is going on?!

Everyone on my social media is going crazy about it.

pigeon999 · 02/07/2020 07:46

patricia can I just say thank you for your very clear and informative post about how the pillars work etc, it has been very helpful on this thread to understand it properly.

scaevola · 02/07/2020 07:47

How long is it since Public Heath functions were reassigned to councils?

That was meant to be a good thing, as it put the wider determinants, such as housing, all under the same tier of government.

But this is the first time it has faced the challenge of an epidemic (in this case pandemic) and how to coordinate between national and local tiers

Worrying interview just now with Local Communities minister - essentially it's 'they'll have the data and thebsupport to nip out break in the bud'

That is Boris's 'some of you will die'

Fortunately it will be far less of us, because we stopped an uncontrolled peak. But still not a good outlook. Especially as the continuing need to re-establish large-scale infectious disease provision in NHS might impede restoration of services (my guess is that they won't want to dismantle much until we have got through a flu season, and even then nitnall changes will be reversed)

pigeon999 · 02/07/2020 07:52

There is a good and very clear map on here:

uk.yahoo.com/news/areas-england-highest-weekly-rate-111752378.html

pigeon999 · 02/07/2020 07:54

Together with the air bridges idea now completely scrapped, the UK will have a long list of 75 countries with no quarantine whatsoever.

Have they just given up? We have no proper track and trace system in place, social distancing is on its way out. Some pretty bold moves are being made....

Justjoinedforthis · 02/07/2020 10:06

Are the government actually using their much lauded Alert Level system to assign alert level to different areas? They had slides and diagrams and everything (!)

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