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Leicester facing full lockdown

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Ifailed · 28/06/2020 12:25

According to the BBC www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-53206506.
Anyone living there - how do you feel about this? Personally I would feel terribly trapped, almost like I was being punished, like when teacher's used to keep a whole class behind due to the behaviour of a minority.

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randomer · 01/07/2020 09:03

I'm not sure Barnsley has the same set up as the other places?

Alex50 · 01/07/2020 09:49

What stands out on the Guardian article is:

Analysis of data collected by local health bodies shows that many of those infected recently have been young men aged 20 to 40, often from an Asian background, many of them working in textiles and food.

I think this maybe the source, let’s see if the government will release the data to the public domain.

Redolent · 01/07/2020 09:59

@Kazzyhoward

Leicester outbreaks is huge compared to other cities, we need to be told why by the government.

Looks to be housing density - communities where more than average numbers of people live together, particularly where 3 or more generations live in the same house, i.e. children, parents, grandparents and maybe even great grandparents. Communities where the wider family live close by, i.e. uncles/brothers/cousins living in the same street, hence far more movement between homes than modern average families who tend to spread out more into different areas.

A few other cities with similar demographics heading the same way - Bradford, Barnsley, Rochdale, all with more than 50 cases per 100,00 population (Leicester is 140 cases per 100,000). The average is 10 cases for 100,000!

47 local authorty areas above 10 but double that (103) local authority areas below 10.

I think the criteria for implementing local restrictions in Germany is 50 cases per 100,000.
PseudoQuim · 01/07/2020 11:00

@lljkk

Is this "furriners" dialog going on in Leicester itself? I sure hope not. The ethnic Asian people in Leicester I know about, who have covid, have lived there all their lives or 50+ yrs. They simply are not foreign.

However, sadly true about how the different Asian communities don't mix. The Pakistanis & Bangladeshis actively avoid each other, too (fought a war 50 yrs ago, doncha know).

@lljkk no, or at least not amongst the people I know. Nobody has panicked, although I haven't been to a supermarket since the announcement and could be living in blissful ignorance Wink
Lolly12 · 01/07/2020 11:22

I live near the boundary of the restricted area and have massive concerns about how this is being handled and what hasn’t been done over the last few weeks. The government said that the measures they’ve put in place in recent weeks haven’t worked, resulting in the new lockdown. The only extra measure that I know of is increased testing, with a walk in centre on Spinney Hill park which is in the area of concern. So anyone, with or without symptoms can go and get tested. Clearly this has resulted in more positive cases being detected, but I don’t believe any extra measures have been put in to support these specific areas and positive individuals, many of whom don’t speak English as their first language.

I work for the local NHS trust and the communications that we got yesterday stated they have not seen a significant increase in admissions recently, contrary to national media. It does seem that cases are in younger people, that although unlikely to need hospital care, may live in a multi-generational household with vulnerable residents. So only time will tell in terms of knock on effect. At present the number of patients in hospital being treated for COVID (across 3 hospitals) is 80ish, compared to over 200 in April at peak.

Word is they didn’t want to take harsh early action as it would have focussed on only the areas of concern, which are all very much high ethnic diversity, which would have increased racial tension in the city. So dithering has resulted in a huge area being affected, with many areas having very low numbers of cases. Residents in these areas are clearly aggrieved that they have been following rules to the letter for months and are now being punished for a minority’s carelessness and government failings. There is also talk of the boundary being decided by postcode and roads leading to and from city, so if police checks are needed they can be implemented easier. All of this is speculation not fact of course!

Reading about legislation due to be passed around enforcement of non essential businesses is concerning. Mainly as it highlights it was never enforceable in the first place! When it comes to ‘advice’ around non-essential travel, this is surely massively subjective? If there is no enforcement of travel outside the area then who is to stop anyone going wherever they like, for ‘essential childcare’ etc? I’ve heard from friends who’d booked to go away from next week or who own their own caravan who have been told they are now not allowed to go, which is fair enough, but one site has said they won’t welcome anyone from leicestershire in or outside the boundary! Such a mess, and when you consider the main areas concerned have quite low car ownership and unlikely to head to the coast for a holiday it will probably just end up penalising a few easy targets rather than focusing on the mass gatherings in houses or parks.

Really seems like Leicester is being used as a test site to see what happens and how people behave. Feels like the government want us all to turn on each other rather then them..

Sorry, that was long.

TorysSuckRevokeArticle50 · 01/07/2020 11:59

@Lolly12 I'm on the wrong side of Fosse park, so within the lockdown area .

I agree the council really need to be doing some business spot checks.

A quick drive around Dysart Way, Evington valley Road/Gedding Rd, Frog Island... would reveal numerous open factories and food production sites. The council should be dropping in unannounced and doing welfare/Covid secure checks. Without some kind of enforcement businesses will continue operating because it's too big of a financial hit not to.

While people are on low wages with limited/no benefits in cases of sickness they will continue to work. I would if the choice was work and be able to feed my family, or don't work and starve/lose my home.

I'm incredibly fortunate to be in the position to be able to WFH and to have company benefits, but so many people do not have that opportunity and are being taken advantage of by unscrupulous employers.

Ethelswith · 01/07/2020 12:10

Really seems like Leicester is being used as a test site to see what happens and how people behave. Feels like the government want us all to turn on each other rather then them

I think there's definitely truth in the first sentence! This sort of local lockdown within one of the home nations hasn't been tried before, and Leicester is the place from which lessons will be learned. And it has to be made to work, otherwise this - a main tool in preventing any areas seeing significant rise becoming large uncontrolled outbreaks - becomes useless. That means there is quite a lot at stake here.

On a separate note, as there are a lot of Leicester people on this thread - wouid you be kind and indulge me with a little nostalgia. There used to be an ice cream parlour right in the middle of the shops, proper Italian place - what was its name? Something like Brucelloni's?

Whattheduck · 01/07/2020 12:12

@Ethelswith do you mean Brucciani’s

TorysSuckRevokeArticle50 · 01/07/2020 12:14

Brucianni is the cafe, unfortunately they closed last year after 80 years

www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/brucciani-announces-shock-closure-after-2610492

It was wonderful, a proper old fashioned cafe, with a menu that had barely changed over the years. You could go in and get a hot ribena or a coke float with a lemon bun. Loved it!

Ethelswith · 01/07/2020 12:22

Thank you @Whattheduck - yes, I do. Definitely - I remember the double entrance.

And I've just googled to see that it closed Sad

My DMum used to take me for ice cream floats, and I never took my DC - and now I can't!

(Ignoring that I'm no longer even vaguely local, and last time I was there was in the 1990s)

MulticolourMophead · 01/07/2020 12:25

I used to go to Brucciani's when I came into the city to shop. It's a shame. I haven't found anywhere as nice to go as yet.

Ethelswith · 01/07/2020 12:29

And thanks TorysSuck (x-posted)

Babyroobs · 01/07/2020 13:44

Brucianni's iced buns were the best ! There used to one on Churchgate near the clock tower. Sadly they closed last year.

InOutofmymind · 01/07/2020 15:09

36 other areas with v high infection rates.

Opening the pubs etc should be delayed for another 2 weeks.

feelingverylazytoday · 01/07/2020 15:28

@InOutofmymind

36 other areas with v high infection rates.

Opening the pubs etc should be delayed for another 2 weeks.

Already been debunked on another thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/3955181-36-areas-in-UK-at-risk-for-lockdown-within-days-are-you-in-one
tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 01/07/2020 16:03

missing point of thread spectacularly Grin < Is anyone else please to see so many of us MNers are Leicester folk too?!!

Mmmmm Brucianis Lemon Split!

nagynolonger · 01/07/2020 16:34

Yes. I still feel a connection. Me mam were a Lesta gel. She worked at Corah's.

Llamazoom · 01/07/2020 16:44

Anybody on here from Portsmouth or the Isle of Wight, I’ve heard from a fairly reliable source that both areas are affected quite badly.

PatriciaHolm · 01/07/2020 17:09

@Llamazoom

Anybody on here from Portsmouth or the Isle of Wight, I’ve heard from a fairly reliable source that both areas are affected quite badly.
IoW would appear to have an infection rate of 2.8/10000 and Portsmouth 0.9 for the last week data is available, which given the average is 10 appears pretty good.
TorysSuckRevokeArticle50 · 01/07/2020 17:12

Coronavirus: Walkers crisps confirms 28 cases at Leicester site www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-53254351

Nuffaluff · 01/07/2020 17:16

Oh my GOD, Brucciani iced buns! Not the ones with cream, the ones without. Lemony and yum.
I miss that cafe.

Nuffaluff · 01/07/2020 17:19

I grew up in Leicester and my mum and dad still live there.
They’re really pissed off! “But we’ve done nothing wrong!”

StrawberryJam200 · 01/07/2020 17:22

When Boris announced the move to open more workplaces, providing they were "COVID secure", he said (or maybe the guidance said, can't remember) that there would be inspectors and spot checks. Do these things exist yet, I wonder??

Llamazoom · 01/07/2020 17:26

@PatriciaHolm thank you so much, it was a local GP’s receptionist who told me.

crosseyedMary · 01/07/2020 17:28

Do these things exist yet
well those are just 'boring details' arent they...Borris doesnt like to trouble himself with tiresome things like that