Leicester facing full lockdown

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According to the BBC www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-53206506.
Anyone living there - how do you feel about this? Personally I would feel terribly trapped, almost like I was being punished, like when teacher's used to keep a whole class behind due to the behaviour of a minority.

I’ve been watching this thread with interest as I live near one of the places in Wales that has had a food factory related outbreak. I think our government is watching closely what happens in Leicester to help them decide whether or not to implement local lockdowns here.

What I can’t see any mention of is furlough? What happens to people’s wages? If they’ve been back at work in non essential retail then they’ve been taken off furlough but won’t be able to earn their wages?

@nagynolonger I accept Leicester hospitals most likely can't close. But they sit the centre of the place with three times the infection rate of anywhere else. So when people are treated there their risk of infection is greatly increased.

For outpatients this means they can take the infection back to towns miles and miles away.

@EdithWeston I would think services will be directed to QMC and notts general and also Derby.

@nagynolonger

The Leicester hospitals can't close. LRI is catchment A and E for a massive area. All of the county and much more. Also a major cancer centre. I think patients come from Northampton for cancer treatment.

A few specialities come from Northampton - skin cancer, some leukeamia trials etc. I also wonder how Leicester residents travelling to other speciality centres in other hospitals ( QMC, Sheffield etc) will go on ? I assume they will be able to travel for essential treatment.

@Chaotic45 My neighbour works at the Glenfield in ECMO and she says that for the last few months there has been no restriction on where patients have been coming from for treatment. They've had patients from Ireland, and all the rest of the country. They've been managing that so far through lockdown so I don't think anything there will change.

I live inside the lockdown area. Just had notification from nursery that all schools and early years settings within the lockdown area will close from Weds night apart from to vulnerable and keyworkers' children.

@Alex50

There’s something else happening in Leicester that the government don’t want out in public knowledge. There are multiple house occupancy all over London and other parts of the UK. I wonder if it is a hub of illegal workers? It’s funny how the mayor of Leister went for a meeting in parliament, he was all against lockdown, and then the announcement at 9pm, the government are being very secretive on where the infection rate is coming from.

Like I said in an earlier post there were reports circulating yesterday that a house containing 30/ 40 people in one house who all tested positive, an area near the Leicester general hospital I think. Could be a rumour, could be illegal workers, who knows.

Grantham Hospital ED services are being wound down by the Trust. There's no capacity there to take extra patients.

Well we just have to hope that there is plenty of PPE and the hospitals have organised thing to separate covid from non covid.

Like I said in an earlier post there were reports circulating yesterday that a house containing 30/ 40 people in one house who all tested positive, an area near the Leicester general hospital I think. Could be a rumour, could be illegal workers, who knows.

FB rumour by any chance ?

@nagynolonger

Well we just have to hope that there is plenty of PPE and the hospitals have organised thing to separate covid from non covid.

They have.

@anon5000

Like I said in an earlier post there were reports circulating yesterday that a house containing 30/ 40 people in one house who all tested positive, an area near the Leicester general hospital I think. Could be a rumour, could be illegal workers, who knows.

FB rumour by any chance ?

It wasn't on facebook, no.

@Alex50

Why are the government being so secretive about where the infections are in Leicester?

Why do you think?

Because people will shout about’racism’ if they do.

It would seem that the majority of the population in this country have worked really hard to make lockdown work. Look at what happened in London, they absoutely nailed it. This seems to be a very worrying situation and surely it's only fair that the general public are aware of which areas are worst affected.

If shops, places of worship, hairdressers etc are opening then the police and army need to be shipped in. It's not acceptable to say that people need to be brought on side, they had the chance and ignored now is the time to enforce the rules. The majority of the population have always been on side and given up a lot. The fact that laws are going to be put in place for this situation tells you that they know they need to take a much harder line.

@brakethree

It would seem that the majority of the population in this country have worked really hard to make lockdown work. Look at what happened in London, they absoutely nailed it. This seems to be a very worrying situation and surely it's only fair that the general public are aware of which areas are worst affected.

If shops, places of worship, hairdressers etc are opening then the police and army need to be shipped in. It's not acceptable to say that people need to be brought on side, they had the chance and ignored now is the time to enforce the rules. The majority of the population have always been on side and given up a lot. The fact that laws are going to be put in place for this situation tells you that they know they need to take a much harder line.

There have been big gatherings of people having religious ceremonies., BBQ's etc at Watermead park just to the North of Leicester. Nothing is ever enforced, no police presence etc.

@brakethree

It would seem that the majority of the population in this country have worked really hard to make lockdown work. Look at what happened in London, they absoutely nailed it. This seems to be a very worrying situation and surely it's only fair that the general public are aware of which areas are worst affected.

If shops, places of worship, hairdressers etc are opening then the police and army need to be shipped in. It's not acceptable to say that people need to be brought on side, they had the chance and ignored now is the time to enforce the rules. The majority of the population have always been on side and given up a lot. The fact that laws are going to be put in place for this situation tells you that they know they need to take a much harder line.

You think people in London have been following the rules? I don't think it was the residents of Leicester who were crowded on those South Coast beaches.

I really think the problem is dubious business owners.

You see groups of people queuing on the street, socially distanced waiting for their work transport. Then they're loaded onto a packed mini bus and taken to a factory to make clothes for cheap fashion shops, where they have no PPE or distancing.

Yes, some people have broken the rules for socialising, shopping etc but if you look at the reports where outbreaks have been discovered they have been work based.

Matt hancock ... said he would not publish the testing results, only to the community that is effected as he said it is not needed and doesn’t help with controlling the pandemic

If so, that's the clearest indication I've yet seen that details are being deliberately suppressed. It also makes me wonder if the general drop in numbers has "masked" an ongoing situation in Leicester which has so far been ignored

It's not acceptable to say that people need to be brought on side, they had the chance and ignored now is the time to enforce the rules

And what about the howls of racism which will inevitably follow if they try?
I agree once again with Chaotic that it's worth trying to get community leaders onside, but similar has been tried for years and doesn't always work if what the majority deem necessary doesn't suit.
Sooner or later a frank conversation will need to be had about how the behaviour of the disengaged affects everyone else, and that's not going to be easy

@TorysSuckRevokeArticle50

I really think the problem is dubious business owners.

You see groups of people queuing on the street, socially distanced waiting for their work transport. Then they're loaded onto a packed mini bus and taken to a factory to make clothes for cheap fashion shops, where they have no PPE or distancing.

Yes, some people have broken the rules for socialising, shopping etc but if you look at the reports where outbreaks have been discovered they have been work based.

Yes I've had a client recently working for £4 an hour in one of these sweat shops.

10 mattresses in a one bed flat
Because our reconomy depends upon importing foreign workers and cramming them in to extract as much profit from them as possible
This is no longer feasible
Ultimately it is the elites who benefit from being able to cram people together in order to extract the maximum profit from them, over the long-term I think they will be social change for the better, a reduction in inequality

If this is the end of cheap throwaway fashion surely that will be a good thing?

@crosseyedMary

10 mattresses in a one bed flat Because our reconomy depends upon importing foreign workers and cramming them in to extract as much profit from them as possible This is no longer feasible Ultimately it is the elites who benefit from being able to cram people together in order to extract the maximum profit from them, over the long-term I think they will be social change for the better, a reduction in inequality

No one forces them to cram themselves into overcrowded accommodation surely ? Some do it to be able to send money back to their families abroad.

From ITV today: "Leicester City Council said there had been 944 confirmed cases of coronavirus in the city in the past two weeks"

Unless as I've said this is being masked by falls in cases elsewhere, I simply can't see how these numbers are being reflected in the national figures. I'm no statistician, but can anyone else make sense of this?

I've had a client recently working for £4 an hour in one of these sweat shops

How old was this person?

£4 per hour is minimum wage for certain age groups

@Puzzledandpissedoff I assume it is because numbers are going down in most places so the local rise is not visible in national statistics.