Leicester facing full lockdown

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According to the BBC www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-53206506.
Anyone living there - how do you feel about this? Personally I would feel terribly trapped, almost like I was being punished, like when teacher's used to keep a whole class behind due to the behaviour of a minority.

@Bercows I don't think it is that bad in absolute numbers (13 new cases in HP), it is just the % increase is high.

@PuddleView

What are the police going to do? Block the A47?

I don't know where the A47 is but assuming it's somewhere near Leicester they don't need to block the road, if they were going to the extreme of literally stopping movement (which I very much doubt) they only need to close the exits and entrances to the road, they would want the traffic to keep moving past Leicester, what good would blocking it do?

[quote Chaotic45]@TerrapinStation absolutely. At the risk of being jumped on the Asian community of Leicester are not big pub goers at all, not at all. [/quote]
Yes but they might well chose to dine out instead...and restaurants aren’t risk free either.

@Autumnwalksx they have definitely said they will fine parents from September for non attendance and I agree with what you’ve just said.

I don’t think Leicester will be the last. The county I live in is next to Leicestershire and I don’t see why people won’t just be able to come over to this county to have a jolly.

No one has said that infections have spread within school. It's been interpreted that way by some people. My interpretation is that the infection rate has soared, so some young people will be affected and as such schools need to close.

Feel free to disagree, it's just my interpretation and hopefully I won't get abused for it!

@Whoknowswhocares

We need to wait for more details of the enforcement process, if Wales can organise a 5 mile travel limit I'm sure England can too.

I admire your optimism and hope you are right. However Wales is surrounded by sea on 3 sides and anecdotal evidence suggests those close to the Welsh border are not exactly water tight.
Closing Leicester down is likely to be much more problematic

I'm watching the news and I haven't heard anything about Leicester being closed down, where is that being reported? The news seems to be saying that this is withdrawal of the 4th July measures rather than the city being cordoned off

"What are the police going to do? Block the A47?"

It'll be like Wales. So on the slip roads or other turnings from the main roads, with moveable checkpoints. ANPR can be used, but
I don't think it's that to be used in real time for this. They won't try to seal every road, but monitor enough (and turn enough people round) tomact as a deterrent to non-essential travel.

And yes, it does look as if several hotspots are schools, so I think we need to know considerably more about the transmission patterns. Before September.

Radio reporting says up in essential shops and all schools closing and asking people not to go out unless absolutely necessary.
To me that sounds like ‘closing’ but the details are predictably vague. Can’t see how that can be enforced though. Guess we will find out in time

I agree the pubs aren't likely to be a key factor but slowing the opening of places of worship certainly will be.

Should read non-essential shops obvs!

Our RC church has said it is reopening and that communion will be taking place. I'm stunned at this. It's in High Peak so maybe that will change if lockdown does extend there.

@Chaotic45 nobody will abuse you for having an opinion I hope but I think we were all a little naive to believe the government when they said children couldn’t spread it. Truth will out and it won’t be long I don’t think.

Quote from Matt Hancock re the Leicester lockdown

"Given the growing outbreak in Leicester, we cannot recommend that the easing of the national lockdown set to take place on July 4 happens in Leicester.

Having taken clinical advice on the actions necessary and discussed them with the local team in Leicester and Leicestershire, we have made some difficult but important decisions.

We’ve decided that from tomorrow, non-essential retail will have to close and as children have been particularly impacted by this outbreak, schools will also need to close from Thursday, staying open for vulnerable children and children of critical workers as they did throughout.

Unfortunately, the clinical advice is that the relaxation of shielding measures due on July 6 cannot now take place in Leicester.

*We recommend to people in Leicester, stay at home as much as you can, and we recommend against all but essential travel to, from and within Leicester.

We’ll monitor closely adhering to social distancing rules and we’ll take further steps if that is what’s necessary.“

I live just outside Leicester. My Facebook feed is full of people sharing maps which they think are the 'official map' showing the areas covered by the new restrictions.

The favourite map has a stamp from public health england in the corner, but I can't actually find it on the PHE website.

If anyone finds one from an official scotch could they link to it please.

@Chaotic45 I actually hope your interpretation is right. I want to send my children back to school. I just fear it isn’t

I don't know where the A47 is

Leicester all the way to Gt Yarmouth, via Peterborough (another possible upsurge area) and then onto Norwich and finally the North Sea.

Everything is gearing up to reopen here - so it will be a blow to a lot of businesses and community groups if The Telegraph is right.

@boys3

I don't know where the A47 is

Leicester all the way to Gt Yarmouth, via Peterborough (another possible upsurge area) and then onto Norwich and finally the North Sea.

Thank you, is there a particular reason that people would want to be going to those areas from Leicester or is the concern that East Anglians would be trying to get into Leicester?

Chaotic45 I agree postcode shutdownds could be a good idea, but they're still areas by any other name and I honestly worry about selected areas becoming demonised

It's not always about how things are but how they look, and while I'm another who hopes we can tackle this together, I see some of the hate already breaking out online and wonder how this will end up if many have to suffer for others' perceived choices

Chaotic I've see that map as well, no one seems to be able to verify on our local page.

@Llamazoom my friend is a paediatric consultant specialising on medicine for ages 10 upwards. She has been on the front line in a midlands hospital throughout his and is totally convinced that children do not carry and spread coronavirus like adults. She hasn't said there is zero chance of it, but that it's a tiny chance and that they are way way way way more at risk from cancer, sepsis, meningitis etc. Plus they need an education, or that too will affect their lives and their health.

@Chaotic45

I live just outside Leicester. My Facebook feed is full of people sharing maps which they think are the 'official map' showing the areas covered by the new restrictions.

The favourite map has a stamp from public health england in the corner, but I can't actually find it on the PHE website.

If anyone finds one from an official scotch could they link to it please.

Just seen this too ( sorry can't link). It covers Oadby, wigston, roughly follows along the M1 to the west side of the city and then A46 to the north. Looks like it stops short of Rothley to the North.

@Puzzledandpissedoff

Chaotic45 I agree postcode shutdownds could be a good idea, but they're still areas by any other name and I honestly worry about selected areas becoming demonised

It's not always about how things are but how they look, and while I'm another who hopes we can tackle this together, I see some of the hate already breaking out online and wonder how this will end up if many have to suffer for others' perceived choices

That's an interesting point, if there is concrete proof that the outbreak is confined to one or a small number of postcodes it's very difficult to justify the lockdown of a whole city, any city. Are you saying that hundreds of thousands should suffer so it doesn't look like a few thousand in a small area are the highest risk group?

It would be easier to enforce restrictions in smaller areas, better for the economy, cheaper for extended furlough for smaller numbers of employees etc

Typical government, no detail!

@Bercows that seems v unwise to me.

@TerrapinStation it's reported that 450 of the 658 cases are in the north and east of the city. North Evington has more than double the cases of any other area.